Don’t Forget the Backlash to the ’60s

It's a bit hypocritical to point a finger at one country for killing innocents while ignoring the other country for killing innocents..

Mental gymnastics for sure..

 

Like they say in the ghettos here, "Don't want none, don't start none"

 

Very true. We definitely have lots of room for improvement. We need to work much harder to stop all killing of innocents. Most of the time, war is simply not worth the price, except to those who get their pockets lined from their investment in the arms industry. Diplomacy has become a lost art in today's world. We have become so used to being the biggest dog on the block that we tend to default to using force to achieve national goals at the expense of others rather than making the world a better place for all.

 

Those tens of thousands of kids that are dead under the rubble didn't have much say in the matter.

 

Yup, they never do Make me wonder what sort of parents sit idly by knowing damn well the repercussion that will be levied on them by the actions of the warring faction they choose to live with??

 

You claimed that you expressed outrage at Gaza for invading, raping, torturing and murdering all those innocent young Jewish women, but I searched your posts, and found so such posts. Can you direct me to them?

This part of the Left is using hatred of Jews to politically organize.

'University Presidents “have participated in the creation of a monstrous movement on campuses that uses targeting of Jews and Israel as an organizing mechanism”'

As for backlash, it's certainly not helping Bribed Joe in the polls, currently he can't beat anyone in a head to head. In a head to head match up he loses to Trump by a goodly margin in the ECV and he loses to RFK by an even bigger margin.

This part of the Left attempts to advance by engaging in evil.

“They have participated in the creation of a monstrous movement on campuses that is anti-American, anti-Western, anti-capitalist, and that uses targeting of Jews and Israel as an organizing mechanism…. It is a tear down the statues ideology. It is remove names from buildings ideology. It is a deconstruction of our society. It is very reminiscent to me of a Khmer Rouge in Cambodia sort of ideology, where you go back to Year Zero.”

'National Students for Justice in Palestine is an organizing force behind the current protests.'

“They are an organization I have followed and written about for well over a decade,” Jacobson says of the pro-Palestine group. “They support terrorists. They honor people like Rasmea Odeh, who killed two Jewish students in Jerusalem.”

They are big supporters of raping and murdering young Jewish women.

There are some big big problems with the faculty and that rots down to the student body.

'The anti-Israel and anti-American sentiment likely will continue on college campuses, he says, because “unless you are going to change the faculty at these schools, unless you are going to change the fundamental ideologies which drive them, removing students from the courtyard isn’t going to change a thing.”'

As for backlash, it certainly doesn't look like these campus attacks and riots are helping Bribed Joe in the polls.

 

In their situation, I would say it is a case of 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'. The Israelis are killing them off and stealing their lands whether they fight back or not. It is a shitty situation that I hope the world community can bring to an end soon.

 

Whether or not I was on here posting outrage I do not know. But if I didn't, let me be clear about it now. I 100% condemn what Hamas did on October 7th. And if you go way back in my posts, like years, you will see that I was very pro-Israel. I still am pro Israel. That is why I am against how Bibi is fighting this war. I want to see Israel succeed. But not at the expense of the Palestinians. I 100% defend their right to defend themselves, but 100% condemn the killing of so many civilians as well as the starvation of the population. It is completely unacceptable.

 

Cons preach trump family values.

 

Nope, that where you go wrong, Cons speak from a personal point.. I personal think all politician sell their souls to the almighty dolla, and when it comes to humanity, we are nothing but fodder and turds that supply them with stupidity and the means to indulge in humanitarian depravities..

You think for yourself?

 

I'd think if they really cared about their and their children, they'd choose the "If they DO" rather than sit there and waiting for a bomb to land on them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Assuming they are all voting age, and that they all voted, and that they all voted for Biden. Lot of assumptions...... But if all your assumptions are right, then, well.....aint that too bad for Biden. Maybe your political leader wins Michigan. Wouldn't that be grand?

 

Yep. Three wives and cheating on all of them and chasing whores while they are pregnant. Oh, and ***** grabbing and peeping on teen agers changing clothes.

 

A proportionate response is one forceful enough that your attacker no longer wants to attack you. Gaza is still launching rockets into Israel and promising a 1,000 more 10/6's until every Jew is dead.

Gaza needs to surrender and release the hostages.

 

A proportionate response would never target civilians. Hamas is an enemy that cannot be defeated on the battlefield. If they hide behind civilians, that means they must be defeated in a non-military fashion. That is the only way to defeat terror anyway. You cannot bomb your way to victory when the radicals you are bombing formed because of the oppression your country was inflicting on them. That is like throwing water on a grease fire. It doesn't work.
We know this, but our politicians are gleeful about it. A war that never ends is PERFECT for the arms industry. They want the perpetual death and destruction so they can just keep selling weapons by the boat load.

 

They aren't targeting civilians.

The dead ones will never rape, torture, murder and then mutilated the bodies of young Israelis women, ever again.

Then they are responsible for the civilians that are killed. I looked through your posts shortly after Gaza systematically invaded, raped, mutilated and murdered all those young precious Jewish women. I was unable to find the expressions of outrage, or any sympathy for the raped, murdered and mutilated young Jewish women, that you claimed to have posted. It seems your concern over civilian casualties did not start while Gazans were systematically targeting and slaughtering young Jewish women, rather it began when the Jewish state counter-attacked the Gazans who are using Gazans as human shields, and really you just seem pissed off that their evil strategy isn't completely detering Israel. But, if I missed your posts, as I've asked you before and you declined to do so, please post a link to them.

It takes close to two decades for a human being to go from conception to a military aged fighting male, and it takes the IDF a split second to kill a terrorist that they have in their sights. Your claim that military force cannot defeat a terrorist is as illogical as it is absurd. It takes seconds to kill them and nearly twenty years to grow a new one.

It generally takes killing 30% of the military aged males to break a society's will to continue fighting.

I did some light checking, you can search deeper, but if a quarter of the population of 2,000,000 are fighting age males, that's 500,000. Gazans claim that 13,000 FAM's have been killed, IDF puts the number at 10,000, so let's call it 11,500. That's 2.3%. They are nowhere even close to breaking the will of Gaza to give up on their dream of raping, murdering, and mutilating every young Jewish woman.

So, it's no surprise that they continue their murderous threats, though now they are under so much military pressure from the IDF, that they are more singularly focused on remaining alive than launching new invasions, and the IDF needs to keep them fighting for their lives, until they break their will to continue attacking. Now is not the time for Israel to let up the pressure. They need to break their will that drove them to invade, target, rape, torture and then mutilate all those precious young civilian Jewish women.

Short of that leaves the job undone, and will result in Gaza again invading Israel and raping, murdering, torturing and mutilating another group of innocent young Jewish women.

Are the Gazan civilians surrendering to the IDF?
Are they revealing the locations of the hostages and the terrorists?

The faster the IDF kills all the terrorists and frees all the hostages, the faster the active shooting portion of the war stops.

 

You basically just defeated your own argument. There are plenty more fighting age males to take the place of those that are bombed, so continuing the bombing is only going to make things much, much worse than they already are. They are not going to surrender. The only way this ends is through negotiation or genocide. Now is DEFINITELY the time to let up pressure. It is already a disaster for Israel. It is only going to get much much worse if they continue.

 

That's fake news.

The dead ones won't.

Gazans that are interested in seeing it stop should be reporting to the IDF where the terrorists and hostages are, so that the fighting can stop.

The dead ones won't keep fighting.

Their will is unbroken, that's why they are more committed to fighting than negotiation. Society's will to continue fighting often breaks when 30% of their military aged males have been killed. Gaza's only lost about 2.3%, so it's no surprise that they remain committed to destroying Israel and raping and murdering more young Jewish women.

The disaster for Israel was 10/7 and they are six months and counting without a repeat, so, it's working. As long as the Gazans want to continue to fight, Israel needs to continue to kill those taking up arms to protect the terrorists and conceal the hostages.

As long as the Gazans are heavily tasked with fighting for their lives, they will not have the bandwidth to launch another 10/7 attack, which they have made clear, repeatedly is their goal: a thousand more 10/7's until every young Jewish woman is raped, murdered and mutilated.

Weird that I can't find any of the posts you claimed you posted of your 'outrage' over the 10/6 attacks. Please provide links, maybe I missed them.

https://www.newsweek.com › ucla-campus-protests-hamas-israel-gaza-1895666
UCLA Campus Protest Screens Play Loop of Hamas Attacks - Newsweek

'4 days ago On October 7, 2023, Hamas militants launched a surprise attack on southern Israel, killing around 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and taking several hundred more back into Gaza as hostages.'

'The graphic footage depicts Hamas' assault, including footage of a Hamas gunman bragging to his parents on the phone that he "killed ten" Jews with his bare hands.'

His parents were thrilled, they trilled "Allah Be praised" Their son slaughtered unarmed Jewish civilians, their son is a lion for Allah!



'Americans woke up Wednesday morning to scenes on TV of police in blue cities arresting college students who camped on campuses. The action came as Democrats were appalled — — by their polling numbers.'

'4 in 5 Americans support Israel over Hamas in Gaza war: Poll

• 71% believe the war in Gaza is created mostly by Hamas, not Israel'

With plummeting poll numbers, now Dems are screaming for a ceasefire.

There was a ceasefire in place with Gaza when they invaded and systematically targetted and raped all those young Jewish women.

'This would be the 16th ceasefire in Israel’s 75-year history. The last one was broken on October 7 by out-of-uniform Gazan soldiers who attacked a civilian festival and raped, tortured, murdered and then mutilated the bodies of 1,400 Israelis and foreign visitors. The violations of international law included taking hostage 240 people with Americans among them.'

Those are war-crimes. I also couldn't find any posts by you condemning Gaza's war crimes on 10/7.

'FJB, Democrats and the media, who worked feverishly to free a WNBA player who was arrested in Russia on drug law violations, have ignored the Palestinians kidnapping Americans. The campus protests revealed to Americans that Democrats are drinking in their Kool-Aid the venom of anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism.'

https://donsurber.substack.com/p/intifada-hurt-democrats

The backlash is deserved.

 

The backlash to the 1960's destroyed the Democrat coalition that had dominated the United States since 1933.

I am a Democrat who supports Israel and Ukraine.

I hate Trump because he cut taxes for the rich. I despise Trump because of his personality and character, although I agree with him on some issues, like immigration.

I like Joe Biden, but I wish he was not running.

If I only voted for candidates I agree with on all issues, I would never vote.

Think of me as a Southern Democrat of the old school President Roosevelt and his New Deal were popular with Southern Democrats. I like the Democrat Party that existed from 1933 to 1963. I think the civil rights legislation and the War on Poverty were well intended mistakes.

 

Oh, well then, since two parents that suffered for so many years under oppression expressed natural human emotion, I guess that makes it ok to slaughter tens of thousands of innocents!
Hmmm, it appears your poll, saying 4 in 5 Americans support the slaughter Israel is doing (which is BS by the way), isn't that Americans reacting in the very same way that you seem to be disgusted that the Palestinians reacted in? Your hypocrisy is overwhelming.

Hamas should be condemned for their actions, and the IDF and Bibi should be condemned for their actions. The killing of civilians is NEVER justifified, regardless which side started a conflict or how horrific the attack was. You can't feign outrage over one side's barbarity, yet embrace the other side's barbarity, without being a complete hypocrite.

If there is a risk of civilians being killed in large numbers, there can be no military action. Simple. That is when it is time for negotiation, which is ALWAYS preferable to military action anyway. Military action is what happens when politicians are idiots, whether it is WW1, WW2, cold war, war on terror, etc. War can ALWAYS be avoided, and should be avoided.

 

Thrilled that your kid deliberately murdered 10 innocent people is not a natural human emotion, it is a sick and depraved one.

You just justified being thrilled over it.

No. That's a highly important regard.

Harvard Harris Poll

 

It will be more interesting to see how far the Senate will go in supporting the House assault on the First Amendment and free speech last week. My guess is that just like the illegitimate patriot act 2 years ago, few in the Senate will oppose the assault on free speech. As the House demonstrated last week, liberty dies to thunderous applause.

 

1) I didn't say it wasn't sick and depraved. It absolutely is. In case you haven't been paying attention, I've said over and over again that the deaths of innocent civilians is unacceptable, whether they are Israeli or Palestinian.

2) See 1.

3) It is irrelevant who caused what, and a poll about that is even less relevant. The killing of innocent civilians needs to stop. That is more important than either sides revenge.

 

Yup the Republican/Democrat Uniparty strikes again, eroding our most sacred rights to keep the arms sales profits rolling.

 

To keep profits flowing, AND to suppress constitutional rights. It's a two pronged effort at least. More profits and less due process.