Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

Or alternatively employing Coercive Control - a form of domestic violence

 

@Bluesguy

Allowing guns into Society so they ca be used to massacre children, is the first to spring to mind.

 

If I am killed by an accident of your creation after you had taken reasonable precautions to avoid the act and you had zero intention of the act resulting in my death, you are not responsible for my death.

 

So, as far as you are concerned, women are battery baby layers, forced into a cage, made to stay there to cluck away until the baby drops.

 

I’m 110% okay with this. I believe the man should have a say in the abortion if there is no medical emergency. I would donate to him if I could. That’s murder of his unborn child.

 

If he felt like that I’m sure he would have said so.

 

That’s false. You can get manslaughter charges for accidents.

 

Yes, no intent, but reckless carelessness.

 

((Sigh)). Been down this road with you before - there are not enough adoptees out there to cope with the increase in live births.

is it his child or is it a form of coercive control and you would be enabling domestic violence

 

Meh! The amount of misogyny on here masquerading as “equality” is gobsmacking! Tell me would you feel the same about this case if she is leaving Texas because i5 is a high risk pregnancy??

 

While I am divorced we never went through the courts and maintain good relations with each other for the sake of the kids. But I've had friends who have had to go through them.

 

The line is the same as it is with any other self defense protocol. Based upon reasonable fear of immediate possible death.

 

Soooo let’s take Sepsis - which is a continuum from SIRS to Septic shock









These two slide represent the “ sepsis continuum”. Now where on that continuum should a woman who is septic be allowed an abortion - remembering that the final stages the patient often develops DIC or Disseminated Intravascukar Coagulation at which point the blood becomes unclottable and abortion is no longer possible. The development of DIC is roughly around where vasopressin is needed.
Or do we wait until this happens


And she needs quad amputations

 

If we put half as many rules on getting abortions as the Left wants to put on small businesses, I'd be more than satisfied.

In all states with Pro-Life laws, plenty of allowance is made for risk to the woman's life. So this argument that "laws against abortion will kill women" seems to be mostly a disingenuous one.

I haven't seen evidence that there's much of any connection between sepsis and needing to get abortion. Not unless the baby has already died, and isn't coming out on its own. But in that case, of course, Pro-Lifers are not going to object to abortion.

 

No they aren’t, otherwise we would not have cases in courts trying to define this NOW.

https://msmagazine.com/2024/04/22/abortion-exception-life-health-of-mother-death/

 

I think (in most cases) they're just trying to cobble together some alleged women's health threat to give judges an excuse to broadly strike down abortion laws.

Even though an actual logical examination of the details would show the connection is more than a little flimsy.

But that being said, if there were anti-abortion laws that were poorly thought out that were actually seriously hurting women's health and unjustifiable, then I would totally support an appeals court tossing them out. I would think that even mildly pro-life judges would be willing to do that.

If you want to have a discussion about whether abortion laws actually are harmful to women's health, we do have an Abortion section in this forum...

 

Post 263 - where would YOU draw the line?

 

Maybe the real issue is the law should more clearly define the line.

To do that, I think the politicians are going to have to listen to and get a recommended policy from doctors, but doctors who are not biased towards one or the other side. Maybe try to get moderately pro-life doctors, including female doctors in Ob-Gyn.

But all this talk about health seems to be off topic, when the story in the first post had nothing to do with the issue of health.

 

They force men to take care of babies they may not want, what’s wrong with forcing them to?

 

Is forcing a man to take care of a child he may not want for 18 years coercive control?

 

There is a term for living creatures who are not permitted to control their own reproduction. That term is "Livestock"

 

A six week limit is the farthest thing from being in well thought out.

 

Why not just leave it to the doctors and the women themselves? Who is better qualified to judge? Four central and South American countries have lessened abortion restrictions over the last few years because of this very issue

 

No it is making him take some responsibility. The very fact that you framed the reply the way you have indicates you have no idea of what coercive control entails - think “reek” from GOT and you will have a better idea.

 

Wow what a horrible person, wanting his future child to exist and all.
SHAME ON HIM
LOCK HIM UP