God created sin - Change my mind

So, it makes more sense to you that 'young woman' gives birth to a country called Immanuel? All righty then.....

300 prophesies > single verse.

 

Why not?
We all start off as female, and men with Swyer syndrome continue to develop and identify as female. If you have a functional SRY gene then your clitoris will enlarge and with a slight plumbing modification become a penis, and the labia will fuse and become a scrotum, and the uterus will become a prostate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_reproductive_system

And was it a sin for Jesus to love a particular disciple who laid on his breast, instead of cleaving to a wife?

 

But who was Jesus' biological father, and was he Heli's son (Mark 3:23) or a Roman centurion as some suggest?

 

There is no inherent conflict between evolution and the existence of a God. So to answer trevor's question.... I guess that's a confirmation that you don't know what evolution is?

The irony is pretty thick here. Evolution has plenty of evidence. Your God belief actually is based on faith; "all hat and no cattle".

 

Differentiate between the two. Many vicars, protestant ministers feel called to the ministry.
and follow Christ's calling. Others feel called to evangelism. They don't need an 'experience'.

And god can be discerned by?
Had science been around thousands of years ago their would have been no need for a god. Man would have been aware of the universe, how things formed etc. etc. No need for a supreme being.

 

Nor did Jesus' parents and family believe that he was even a prophet as he claimed.

 

Biological father? You don't seem to know much about Christianity.

If you say so.

Jesus did not claim to be a prophet.

 

If Jesus existed then he had a biological father from who he inherited his Y chromosome. Mark 3:23 says that he was supposedly Heli's son, but while maternity is a matter of fact, paternity is just a matter of opinion without reliable paternity tests, and particularly when the story about his conception and birth were written decades after he was executed by the Romans for sedition.

 

Gods work and people is what is recorded in scripture. The work, people, and Churchs of men is the attempt to approximate what they find in those scriptures known as the Bible. Bible based religion isn't a continuation of Gods work. It is a reflection or image of it. This is traditional Christianity. It is like a movie based on real events, which then pretends to be part of that event. It's like cosplay. And everyone knows it. They just don't like to look at it because it spoils the illusion. As an Atheist, I'm sure that this illusory tactic is crystal clear to you.

 

Really?

Mark 3:23 So Jesus called them over to him and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan?

 

And your evidence for the existence of god is? Evidence being a statement or proof admissible in a court.

 

Wrong. Jesus only claimed to be a prophet, even though his parents and family didn't believe him (Matt 13:57), and he didn't claim to be without sin either - Mark 10:17-18. And unlike the Jews and Jesus' family, Moslems accept him as one of their important prophets.

 

OK.
Luke 3:23 says Jesus' biological father was supposedly says Heli's son.

 

Joseph was his father in the sense that he raised him like a son, but he was obviously not his biological father according to Christian beliefs.

"He was the son (as was thought) of Joseph son of Heli."

Was his sinless? Yes. 2 Corinthians 5:2 - Christ was without sin

 

Nope. Never even entered my mind.

I think you're really stretching things. I don't think you even know the original hebrew words used and their meaning.

All righty then...

 

d. Why Jesus Could Not Have Been The Jewish Messiah
A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that, although Jesus was Jewish, he did not fulfill any of the other criteria. An examination of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy demonstrates a number of difficulties with the fulfillment of the second criterion. Specifically, the New Testament claims that Jesus did not have a physical father. The Jewish Scriptures, however, clearly states that a person’s genealogy and tribal membership is transmitted exclusively through one’s physical father (Numbers 1:18, Jeremiah 33:17). Therefore, Jesus cannot possibly be a descendant of the tribe of Judah nor of King David and King Solomon.
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The third, fourth, fifth and sixth criteria have obviously not been fulfilled, either during Jesus’ time or since. Any Christian claims that these final criteria will be fulfilled in a “Second Coming” are irrelevant because the concept of the Messiah coming twice has no scriptural basis.

To summarize, we cannot know that someone is the Messiah until he fulfills all of the above criteria.
https://www.jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/was-is-jesus-the-messiah

 

Luke 3:23 says that Heli's son was supposedly Jesus' biological father, presumably based on a relationship between Heli's son and Joachime's daughter which was somewhat more than platonic. And Matt 1:16 says that Jacob's son (coincidentily also named Joseph) was Jesus' adoptive father after he married Joachime's daughter.

But Jesus never claimed to be without sin, and didn't deny being a boozer (Matt 11:19).
And Paul never even met Jesus anyway, so how would he know!!!

 

Really?

Paul says "For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is in heaven" (2Cor 5:2).

 

And while John 3:16 says that he was his god's begotten son like David (Psalm 2:7), Jesus never became the Jewish king like David, and why the Romans mocked him as the "King of the Jews" when they executed him for sedition and as a potential threat to the Roman occupation.

 

Yes. Have a nice day.

 

God has proven himself to me in my court by the visitation of his spirit. I recognized and remembered his spirit. So I know he lives. It isn't what I have been taught or concluded. And I don't need science to prove it to me anymore than I need science to tell me that there is a sun in the sky or an earth under my feet. All I have to do is look at it for myself and know.

 

Saul, the persecutor of Christians, often talked in opposition of what Jesus was written about as saying.
Even though, most of those who wrote what Jesus said, never met Jesus either

 

And they certainly didn't ask Jesus' mother who his biological father was.

 

Rumor is that it was a Roman Soldier .. !!! ahh .. ahhh.. just kidding. Jesus biological Father was Joseph Mary's Husband.. Least that is the way it is told in the original version of the story .. which I like better those later editions with edits and additions .. "Immaculate conception" .. come on .. that is ridiculous given how the original story goes.

 

You claim evolution can't be proved. Neither can god. Psychologists can give you an answer for your experience, but you won't accept that either.