Biden Was Slow To Condemn

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  1. popscott

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    ""And I'm saying #46 is more accurate than Zorro's comment. I have more evidence.""
    Great.... show us...
     
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    Kind of like those that deny that the "Summer of Love" was a nationwide violent series of events egged on by democrats?

    Fiery but mostly peaceful "protest" ?
     
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    Literally EVERYBODY was condemning Hamas. Everybody.

    You don't hold a protest unless the government refuses to change its course. That is what a protest is for. You can condemn without protest.
    The reason there is protest now is because our government and the Israeli government are refusing to change course, resulting in greater and greater numbers of civilian casualties.
     
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    Sorry, but you're not worth my effort.

    Reread #19.
     
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    Cool story bro.

    Please post the sources the the encampments on college campuses. The attacks and threats on Palestinians. The calls for relief aid to the citizens of Israel. The calls for Hammas to release the hostages.

    please post these.

    Yet not one peep when thousands of Jews and innocents were murdered?

    Pffft. The agenda is clear to see. These radicalized idiot college students are incapable of actually defending the Jewish state.

    Palestinians were told to leave Gaza. Yes or no?
     
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    Apparently you didn't read my previous post. I clearly stated that there were no protests, as the government was acting to support Israel, so why would their be protests and rallies? There was no need, as the government was already acting in favor of Israel.

    Relief aid? To Israel? Dude, we are sending BILLIONS. How much more aid do they need???
    Your agenda is certainly clear. More dead innocents.
     
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    I asked a question. Learn the difference between a question and a statement. All you have to say is "yes" or "no."
     
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    That's fake news and we both know it.
     
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    He could have both condemned that and endorsed what Josh wrote above. It isn't mutually exclusive.
     
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    Yeah, it's almost like the "thoughts and prayers" from the right, huh?
     
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    There were a ton more protests that never got violent and never made the news because there was nothing newsworthy about them. Smaller scale protests. We had several in my area. No violence, no vandalism. We only heard about the big ones in the major cities because of how disruptive they were, and of course when those among them turned into garbage and started looting and committing crimes.
     
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    Whats especially sad about it is that the US is funding and propping up Israel, arming them, so the US could make that aid contingent on how and when those weapons are used. That makes them complicit.
     
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    LOL. If you haven't noticed, over the last year or more the left have been saying a lot of "thoughts and prayers" over things.

    Regarding gun violence, yes, something needs to be done. Criminals need to be kept locked up. Taking away the rights of law abiding citizens isn't going to decrease gun violence. In case you haven't figured it out yet, which I know you haven't, gun control laws don't work because, surprise, surprise, criminals don't follow laws. That's why they are criminals.
     
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    Why is it fake news? It is just a question about changing the subject from anti antisemitism to Donald Trumps campaign and wondered why:

    "Bribed Joe is complicit in these riots and Leftwing money is fueling them, and it's not helping them with the voters.
    Rasmussen has Trump up by 10 in the 3 way with RFK and the internals give us some hints as to the impact of the Left's anti-Semitic rioting on Bribed Joe's support.
    'Trump earns 46 percent nationwide support, compared to just 36 percent for Biden and nine percent for Kennedy.'
    'Trump leads with Hispanics by eight points'
    'Trump leads with 18-39-year-olds by two points'
    Trump earns 16% of Democrat support and Bribed Joe only takes 10% of GOP support.
    Trump's polling has improved during the Corrupt Bragg Trial before Crooked Judge Merchan"


    a question which has not been answered.
     
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    Gun control can work, because it makes guns less important and less convenient for criminals to get, and be because non-criminals can become criminals, and because not all gun injury and death is intentional.

    You can rob somebody with a knife or even with your fist. But if they have a gun, you will want one too, and you may want to shoot them immediately, before they have a chance to use it against you.

    It makes sense for a criminal to have a gun in the USA where the likelihood of encountering armed resistance is high. Criminals don't need guns and so fewer criminals carry them in places like Canada or Australia where few carry around guns. That makes it make more sense for you to carry one too. It's a feedback loop.
     
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    We all saw it on the news and in cities nearby. And we also saw the Democrats telling them things like they should not let up and I don't know why there's not more unrest and maybe there will be
     
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    The peaceful protests shouldn't let up. They are pressure on the schools to divest from funding Israel. And they are pressure on the US government to stop funding the bombs that are killing innocent Palestinians.

    A distinction needs to be made between that and anti-semitism. Jewish students should not be harassed.
     
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    I was actually referring to the summer of 2022 with the George Floyd riots. Several prominent Democrats pretty much encourage them to stay the course and I would expect they would do the same exact thing this time
     
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    Ah. There was no excuse for that violence either. And there was more violence then than now. Bit of a double standard actually in the responses by said Democrats.
     
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    Criminals can get all the guns they want. That's what you don't understand. Gun control laws only hurt law abiding gun owners.
     
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    I do understand that. I stated that in the post you quoted. You didn't respond to what I wrote.
     
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    Why weren't there protests condemning Hammas and protesting their attack on Israel?

    Just two days after Israel attacked, they were protesting.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pr...nd-central-seeking-gaza-ceasefire-2023-10-28/

    Yet, there was ZERO protests calling for Hammas to release hostages or condemning their attack that resulted in thousands of dead Jews.


    Was there protests 2 days after Hammas attacked?

    Why was there when Israel retaliated?

    No. To Gaza.

    And your agenda is clear. Innocent deaths are a-ok if they are Jewish. Want me to prove it?


    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1074510308/

    You have been here since 2014, and you had ZERO to say about Hammas attacking Israel. Not one ****ing word.

    Yet since November 14, 2023, you have had 476 things to say about Israel after they retaliated.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?search/72485919/&page=7&q=israel&o=date&c[user][0]=67286

    In fact, when I bring up the point about protests condemning Hammas, YOU have never even mentioned Hammas except in response to me. Yet claim "what are you talking about, everybody is condemning them".... except you.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?search/72486007/&q=hammas&o=date&c[user][0]=67286

    Back in 2015, you said this:

    "I don't get outraged when the kid deserves it. I don't think the Palestinians should be too surprised that they get their homes bulldozed when they support violence against Israel."

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1064840265/


    And here is you back in 2019:

    They fought for and spilled blood for that land in 1967 and 1972. They won. That makes it theirs in a far more real sense than “my ancestors lived here”. Every nation on earth belonged to some other nation at some point in history. As far as supporting them, I like their western values a hell of a lot more than people should would launch rockets from where their women and children live, hoping they get killed so they can cry to the UN about the “humanitarian crisis”. Zero respect for Palestine.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1070381862/



    Everything you predicted, and supported, came true.

    Why the change of heart?
     
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    Because over the years I have gone through many changes, spiritual in nature. I have come to recognize that we are all one, and that when you help others you help yourself, and when you harm others, you harm yourself. As within, so without. As above, so below. Nothing exists except the one infinite creator, and we are simply all god experiencing itself from different points of view.

    Over the years I have put great effort into trying to see things from the perspective of others, especially those that I would be tempted to call 'my enemy'. I have come to the conclusion that I have no enemies, and the concept of having an enemy is a form of insanity, brought about by simply having no comprehension on what is really going on in this existence of ours. It is all a schoolhouse.

    So yes, absolutely, my perspective has changed immensely over the years as I have gone through profound changes as I underwent a spiritual awakening. I am now not "anti-israel" or "anti-palestine". I am for the end of the violence, and ending the death of innocents, regardless of their origins. It doesn't matter one's religion, ethnicity, nation, etc. We are all one, and all deserve the chance to live happy, peaceful lives. Governments are masters at spreading the illusion of division that result in horrific violence.

    So, yeah, spiritual awakening changes your outlook on literally everything.
     
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    Because the schools where they are protesting and the USA itself isn't funding and supporting the Hamas attack on Israel. These protests are meant to exert pressure on the schools to divest funding Israel's attacks, which the protestors see as far beyond a rational or effective response against Hamas and an indiscriminate attack on Palestinian civilians. Israel relies heavily on US funding, so the US has leverage on Israel if it wanted to use it, and could make the funding contingent. These protests are trying to push that.

    What would a protest against Hamas be seeking to accomplish? The school isn't funding Hamas and neither is the USA. Hamas certainly isn't going to listen. They are a terrorist organization.

    If the USA or these schools did fund Hamas, I think you would see plenty of outrage over it there, and if the USA ignored that outrage and continued funding Hamas terrorism, I think you'd see protests.
     
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    Looks like Qatar, and Hamas backer, bought Bribed Joe.

    CAMPUS PROTESTERS PRETEND TO SPEAK FOR STUDENTS, BUT THEY DON’T: Poll: 81% of College Students Want Protesters Held Accountable. “A majority also said they oppose the protest tactics: 67% say occupying campus buildings is unacceptable and 58% say it’s not acceptable to refuse a university’s order to disperse. Another 90% said blocking pro-Israel students from parts of campus is unacceptable.”

    “And that’s after more than six months of radical campus actions. The pro-Hamas fringe isn’t even convincing their most sympathetic and proximal cohort, let alone anyone else.”

    Americans support Israel

    Note how posters here assume the mantle of the majority when actually opinion is 4:1 against them.

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    It's all coordinated misinformation with some folks.
     
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