One thing coming out of the "Hush money trial"

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  1. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    The paradigm of tRaitor tRump and his Co. is FRAUD.

    fraud
    noun
    ˈfrȯd
    1 a
    : deceit, trickery
    specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right
    was accused of credit card fraud
    b: an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : trick
    automobile insurance frauds
    2 a: a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : impostor
    He claimed to be a licensed psychologist, but he turned out to be a fraud.
    also : one who defrauds : cheat
    b : one that is not what it seems or is represented to be
    The UFO picture was proved to be a fraud.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    That's the executive summary of tRaitor tRump's life.

    He and his organization don't even "think" of ways to do something legally. Fraud is so baked into the way he's always done things it doesn't enter his mind that he could do something honest. He's so preoccupied with devising the scam that actually doing something above board isn't even considered.

    He could have created a charity for children with cancer and paid himself handsomely to manage it. He just took the money.

    He could have found some real estate guru to brand his university with the tRump name and took a nice cut. But he hired a bunch of people that knew nothing about real estate, weren't teachers and developed no curriculum to follow. He just wanted to scam the poor fools that believed his bullshit out of their money.

    Everything he's done in his life had been designed to get the most out of the least. He's never taken pride in anything but lining his pockets.

    IF, he would have just tried to actually be President for MOST Americans and put their needs in the mix he would have been reelected. But he was too busy trying to scam the government by over charging for his Secret Service detail's travel. He could have actually addressed COVID by deferring to his health experts. But he was too worried about how it would affect his reelection so he tried to hide the danger it was.

    His whole presidency he worked to keep his job, but never did his job.

    Now he's on trail for fraudulent bookkeeping to hide election fraud. And he's wondering how he got there. :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Where's the fraud in this case?
     
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    Not really the thread point and asked and answered, many times in other threads, but ...


    You - my question
    where is the fraud in the hush money case



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    The fraud in the hush money case is related to former President Donald Trump’s alleged falsification of his company’s records to conceal the nature of hush money reimbursements1. Here are some key points:

    The point is tRaitor tRump doesn't know where to begin in trying to be honest.
     
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    @Noone

    Please show us the fraud Trump committed...... I would venture to say there is more fraud from the prosecution side than the Trump side...

    NDA and "catch and kill" are legal...... McConney comptroller entered the "legal expense" to classify the payments.... Hope Hicks "he was worried about Melania finding out".... Trump name was not on the NDA... the document were post election and state DA's have no jurisdiction over federal laws..... Stormy's own lawyer said "It was not a payoff. It was not hush money. It was consideration.".... the initial charge was an outdated misdemeanor, with a possible second outdated misdemeanor of conspiracy that was not included in the indictment.

    Cohen.... a disbarred, serial perjurer, and "secret Russian agent", will walk into a courtroom and asks to take an oath and try to convince the jury to put his former client in jail for following his own legal advice. He paid Stephanie Clifford, AKA Stormy Daniels, from his personal funds; “neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was party.”"

    The question is can a honest, unbiased, impartial jury make a decision on the massive distortion and twisting of this legal interpretation that has taken place....

    Per a person setting in court transcribing the testimonies
    https://twitter.com/innercitypress

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    @Noone
    ""The point is tRaitor tRump doesn't know where to begin in trying to be honest.""
    The point being when a poster has the gall to declare they know when and where an honest person is being honest... and the poster is the one being dishonest.
     
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    Falsifying corporate business records in furtherance of NY election interference.
     
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    The whole thing is about trying to influence the 2016 by hiding information that could hurt Trump in the election, something that just about every candidate in history has done, including Biden himself. Just before the 2020 election Biden and his team found classified documents in his home and purposely kept it quiet because he knew it would hurt him in the election if that were to get out. It stayed buried for months until they realized it was going to be exposed anyway and only then did they decide to come clean about it, AFTER the election. Yes, Trump is guilty of trying to hide damaging information to him in the 2016 election, just as many others have done over the centuries, but only Trump is being prosecuted for it.
     
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    The point is tRaitor tRump doesn't know how to conduct himself legally. All his plans begin and end fraudulently. Trying to do something legally never enters his mind. If it's not a scam, if he isn't taking advantage, if he's not gaming the system, if it doesn't involve lie after lie ... he doesn't know where to begin.
     
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    According to what I read the documents were discovered on November 2, 2022 two years after the election and turned in immediately. I saw no mention of documents or an investigation before then.
    https://www.axios.com/2023/01/12/biden-classified-documents-timeline

    Do you have further information?
     
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    ""Do you have further information?""

    Why YES we do....
    We have documents, testimony and an investigation... two investigations actually.... would you be interested in seeing the truth and not what a left wing fake news sight carries?

    I see the question has spread between two different elections 2020 and 2022... Vice president Joe Biden had actual classified documents and knew it and was not about to reveal them because "they were his" long before the 2020 election... and then Resident Biden and crew knew about the classified document 6 months (and actually up to a year and a half) at the Penn Biden CCP Center

    Just ask and I'll see what juicy stuff I can put on your plate... and lots of it...
     
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    Why NO you don't. They were packed up with the rest of his stuff on tRaitor tRumps inauguration day and put in storage.
    That's bullshit, there's been nothing reported that President Biden knew about Classified Documents until people cleaning up his storage found them and Immediately called NARA.
    There is no proof of that bullshit either.
    Lies and innuendo is all you have or you would have posted links.
     
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    Great, can you give me your source.
     
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    So, still no evidence of fraud, or anything else?
     
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    When? He's been sued for fraud, and lost many, many times in his life. He's a serial fraudster.
     
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    Let's keep it about THIS trial.
     
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    The thread is about his life of fraud, do catch up.
     
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    This observation is vital! Last time around EVERYTHING he did was intended to keep his job. So even when he tried to do things to please his base, they were intended to persuade them to reelect him. So what happens when reelection is no longer possible? How does he retain his job? It's not going to be by people wanting to vote for him because... they can't.

    So, what next? A constitutional Amendment? I doubt he'd even try. The only option left is brute force. He MUST become a dictator. And he will fail... but even ATTEMPTING to do that will mean a lot of bloodshed and huge damage to our country.

    I think we're already seeing this. The right has been undermining democracy. Little by little the will erode the Republic and try to convince people that a dictatorship is preferable. The dictatorship will not succeed. But the erosion WILL perdure.
     
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    And you posted this...

    ...and that's what I was responding to.
     
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    Did you miss the bit about Donnie scamming a kids cancer charity??

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    They were fined $2 million and they lost that court case too
     
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    Does that make it OK? If you want to clean up the political landscape someone has to be held to account and Cohen has already served time for this
     
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    The hush money trail IS about fraud. I posted what the trial is about so it wouldn't derail the tread, as you seem to be intent on doing. There are threads about the trial if you want to carp on about it. This thread is about tRaitor tRumps fraud based life and his inability to do ANYTHING honestly.
     
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    None of this is opinion...this is all documented fact. The most poignant statement is that he doesn't think of ways to do what he needs/wants legally. Never has. So why would the presidency be any different? And now having his following support him - no matter what - his beliefs of being above the law are reinforced. Its a sad, sad situation for our country.
     
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    Did you notice that that wasn't a criminal trial? Do you know the the difference between a civil trial and a criminal trial?
     
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