Trump to judge who threatened to toss him in jail over gag order: 'Give me liberty or give me death'

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    So it's too suspend free speech of a presidential candidate and we're going to lie about protecting people from some imaginary danger?

    That's a typical dictator move.
     
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    He can say anything he wants in court to defend himself. Of course there if it's inflammatory, false and asinine the jury will see it as such and throw away the key.
    What I find sad is that so many are defending his right to lie and try to overthrow the court without examining why he is in court in the first place. It's called tax evasion when you put private expenses on your corporate taxes. That the crime occurred there is no doubt. Who committed the crime is why there is a trial. The State says he did it and he claims ignorance. I agree with both from what I've seen.
     
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    @StillBlue

    There was no tax evasion, fraud, NDA crime, catch and kill crime.... McConney filled in the "legal expense".... an out of date misdemeanor, a Biden WH mole


    and no second crime.
     
  4. StillBlue

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    Then he has nothing to fear and nor should his supporters and the personal attacks by him are just a sideline caused by what, evil?
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump didn't even know who he was quoting.
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that isn't how a fair trial works. In a fair trial the jury only considers the evidence. They don't vote with their emotions.

    Oh, so the underlying crime is tax evasion, now?...lol

    None of you have a clue what the alleged underlying crime is. Do you? Ever think that might be because there isn't one??
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Why has there been no legal action anywhere, no Republican Senator or Representative repeating your fiction?

    If you need to believe lies, that is your business, of course.

    The 2020 loser-in-denial has been established as a sexual abuser and a business fraud under America's system of justice, and is facing 91 felony counts.

    The President has had no charges concocted against him that could stand up in any court of law in the land.

    That is the empirical reality.
     
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  8. Natty Bumpo

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    In a fair trial, the perp's hysterical outbursts against officers of the court and witnesses would not be tolerated.

    If they suspect that the Skank has been falsely charged, his defense attorneys will raise the issue, regardless of his cheerleading bum kissers bleating about it.
     
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  9. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    There haven't been any outbursts


    His attorneys have raised the issue. Not sure why you all keep posting that, as if it's a valid argument...lol
     
  10. Natty Bumpo

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    The perp keeps sniveling and whining, despite his having been disciplined by the court.

    "Raising the issue" does not validate it.
     
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  11. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, gag orders are not unconstitutional. Threatening, or putting the judge, attorneys or the jury in danger is uncalled for and certainly deserving of a gag order. Its common sense.
     
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    Threating is illegal under any circumstance but good thing that never happened.
     
  13. fullmetaljack

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    But Trump violating the gag order did happen. 9 times(so far).
     
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    It means nothing.

    Trump is ccompletely reduced to whining about his victimhood.

    Which plays well with the entitled white resentment crowd (as does Trump's race baiting).

    None of the other people mentioned attacked the judge, doxxed people, tried to intimidate jurors or witnesses.

    Trump did all these things.
     
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    No, but it is dishonest. And it's intended to play to his tribe, which is all victims.
     
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    Gag orders are not unconstitutional.
     
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    Really ? If it's a "typical dictator move", please cite and example of it happening in the past. Shouldn't be hard since you claim it's a "typical" move.

    What free speech is being suspended ? The Orange Stain can talk about Biden or any other campaign topic, just not the items specified in the order.

    Wishing for the Orange stain to "prosecute this judge", who is doing his job BTW, isn't a "typical dictator move" ?

    Is this the America you MAGA types want to create ?


    "US District Judge Royce Lamberth has been threatened by angry criminals. Drug cartels. Even al Qaeda.

    But nothing, Lamberth says, prepared him for the wave of harassment after he began hearing cases against supporters of former President Donald Trump who attacked the U.S. Capitol in a bid to overturn the 2020 election.

    Right-wing websites painted Lamberth, appointed to the bench by Republican President Ronald Reagan, as part of a “deep state” conspiracy to destroy Trump and his followers. Calls for his execution cropped up on Trump-friendly websites. “Traitors get ropes,” one wrote. After he issued a prison sentence to a 69-year-old Idaho woman who pleaded guilty to joining the Jan. 6, 2021, riot, his chambers’ voicemail filled with death threats. One man found Lamberth’s home phone number and called repeatedly with graphic vows to murder him."
     
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  18. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Yet, still not a violation of the gag order.
     
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    And it is a reasonable consequence to his behavior. Hard to understand how some can support his verbal abuse and threats. At the bare minim it is indecent and uncivil. Totally disrespectful and given the Trumpsters propensity for violence to support him , high risk.
    If Trump is unable to control himself..........then he needs to be controlled. and disciplined. It is not complicated. * and no amount of Trumpster spin and deflection changes that .
     
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    Question for you. Do you think there is ever a place for gag orders in a criminal proceeding. Take the following hypothetical. What is Trump were to publicly make statements that were clearly intended to intimidate the witnesses and jurors. Like what if he said “when I’m president I’m going to order the IRS to audit the hell out of anyone witness who testified against me or any juror who votes to convict me.” Would that situation merit a gag order?
     
  21. Natty Bumpo

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    Trump has brayed that he will take the stand.

    That is a legitimate venue for expressing himself concerning the charges against him.

    Trump was asked if he would testify in his own defense at any of the trials stemming from the four separate indictments he faces.
    "Oh yes, absolutely," Trump said.

    When asked if he would take the stand, Trump replied: "That, I would do — that, I look forward to... At trial, I’ll testify."


    Of course he is lying, and will refuse the opportunity to testify under oath. The skank would be peeing himself.
     
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    He has the RIGHT to defend himself to the attacks on him... A god given right. Merchan is not god..
     
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    @Pro_Line_FL

    Show us ANY example of Trump ""Threatening, or putting the judge, attorneys or the jury in danger""... Let's see what you got to back up your claim..
     
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    He slept with S.D. He didn't lie about bookkeeping entries because CEO's don't do bookkeeping entries, the accounting department does that. His company wrote a check to a lawyer and booked it as legal expense. It is how virtually any company would book it. The interesting news is that political prosecution isn't getting anywhere other than helping Trump's campaign.
     
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    CEOs who sign their finances are responsible for what is in their finances. This is how every company works.
     

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