Why doesnt god just show himself?

Do as I did! Maybe you would get to see God and angels. Here are the instructions. Live a sinners selfish life, drinking, drugs, join an outlaw motorcycle club watch your brothers die one by one and ask yourself why? Why are there more funerals than parties, why my sisters and brothers OD over the years, when drugs and drinking once fun, when that selfish life shows its true nature, death and pain, the reaper now rides with you, the atheist smug in the belief that God is not real may not be THAT smug, and then it happens you wreck at 120 mph and die. Is that where I am? DEAD?

Its freaking dark but to each side the it gets even darker into an unknown depth that eats my bravery, I can see its even more dark than the darkest night, and above whatever ledge I am standing on, I can see a light farther away than even the most distant star, what the (*)(*)(*)(*) is that I wonder, then I know...then I hear, well I don't hear because I cant feel my body, how can I hear without ears, ha ha... I kind of know my body is dead and its the strangest feeling! Like someone stole it....I want it back! Oops I almost lost my balance when the sound became louder, it was coming from that light! No wonder I was having a hard time hearing it, it said "Do you want to die without knowing me?" 'No' I want to know you!" I scream because I knew who it was even before the words came. No words came out, just a feeling of being pulled upwards, and the strangest sound like cymbals played in reverse.

The next think I remember is a huge black MD slapping my face. I had 'died' several times my heart was so bruised that I was not given 50% chance to live not counting my femurs and other leg bones sticking out of my legs along with other stuff like a ruptured spleen broken arm etc...But that night my true life was saved. I changed from an atheist to agnostic then to a christian in the next few months ....

Still God didnt have to break my legs to get my attention...

Ra'h

 

Sun is risen.

http://youtu.be/KBLnN4R_PM0

 

And as you then glurge me with your cherry-picked nonsense, I see little reason not to toss your book of love back in your face:

Matthew---

Those who bear bad fruit will be cut down and burned "with unquenchable fire." 3:10, 12
Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. 5:17
Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 5:29-30
Jesus says that most people will go to hell. 7:13-14
Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 7:19
"The children of the kingdom [the Jews] shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 8:12
Jesus tells a man who had just lost his father: "Let the dead bury the dead." 8:21
Jesus sends some devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the waters below. 8:32
Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen.19:24). 10:14-15
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." 10:21
Jesus says that we should fear God who is willing and "able to destroy both soul and body in hell." 10:28
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." 10:34-36
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. 11:20-24
Jesus will send his angels to gather up "all that offend" and they "shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." 13:41-42, 50
Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: "He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death." (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) So, does Jesus think that children who curse their parents should be killed? It sure sounds like it. 15:4-7
Jesus advises his followers to mutilate themselves by cutting off their hands and plucking out their eyes. He says it's better to be "maimed" than to suffer "everlasting fire." 18:8-9
In the parable of the unforgiving servant, the king threatens to enslave a man and his entire family to pay for a debt. This practice, which was common at the time, seems not to have bothered Jesus very much. The parable ends with this: "So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you." If you are cruel to others, God will be cruel to you. 18:23-35
"And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors." 18:34
In the parable of the marriage feast, the king sends his servants to gather everyone they can find, both bad and good, to come to the wedding feast. One guest didn't have on his wedding garment, so the king tied him up and "cast him into the outer darkness" where "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 22:12-13
Jesus had no problem with the idea of drowning everyone on earth in the flood. It'll be just like that when he returns. 24:37
God will come when people least expect him and then he'll "cut them asunder." And "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 24:50-51
The servant who kept and returned his master's talent was cast into the "outer darkness" where there will be "weeping and gnashing of teeth." 25:30
Jesus tells us what he has planned for those that he dislikes. They will be cast into an "everlasting fire." 25:41
Jesus says the (*)(*)(*)(*)ed will be tormented forever. 25:46

And that's just the first book. Need I go to the genocides of Revelations?

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

So says he who purportedly follows a mass-murdering cosmic tyrant; and that's what' been openly claimed about your so-called god... who knows what evil lurks beneath the gilded surface of your deity?

This is you rationalizing god's responsibility away and shifting blame onto humanity for god's having created this entire mess.

No... I think your god (as hypothesized) is a lying tyrant who has a taste for mass atrocities; all our 'free will' is in this formulation is an excuse to get this god off his sorry hook... when he deserves nothing but our condemnation and rebellion.

Thank goodness this god hasn't been shown to exist... or we'd have to hunt him down and take him out as befits moral human beings.

If I 'stink', it's only because this god created a stinky universe; he had and has every chance to do things differently, outside of our capacities to effect all outcomes. Indeed, as this god is the actualizer of all possibility, he is logically responsible for all that follows from such actualizations; even if we are 'free willed', we aren't ultimately responsible.

Says who? I see no justification for your god being in any applicable position to judge human beings on a human level (that's left to us); as we are for as HE created us to be on the metaphysical level, we aren't agents applicable for that judgement in the first place.

Except for the terrors you commit or fail to stop on this world due to your otherworldly beliefs; THAT is the only thing that matters, bub.

Argument from authority; neither of them or anyone else has shown such matters are explicable... or even significant.

You're hand-waving, and nothing more.

 

how do you know?

what gives you that authority of fact?

i am a LaZy typer............ and yu tink it tis psycho?

Uncle sam was created from idiots not comprehending US on food packaging meant United states.

talk about being psycho!!!!!

MOS......master of sucking?

go lay by your dish

i freely coin you a quack, with love for the children to know how to identify quacks

it is natural to be honest.

in contrast, you learned how to lie (false witness) and dont care what your fellow human life cares based on the irresponsible actions you continue to perform.



ie...... the best examples of anti-christs (against truth) are often seen by observing christians

i may so there is something left for my dog to eat

 

that could be a song!!!!!

 

Well it is a real world example because some people who have seen the polar express really believed what Tom Hanks was saying as the conductor while others did not want to believe so they couldn't see the movie for what it was.

 

Trust me. When God eventually shows himself, you're not going to have a very good day.

 

Very interesting. So you don't actually follow orthodox/mainstream Christianity as such, you follow something called "MODERN" (in big shouty letters) Christianity instead?

Which is presumably Christianity with the Hebrew Scripture (Old Testament) part totally brushed under the carpet, and all the obvious contradictions between the god it described & concepts such as love and mercy therefore conveniently set aside?

The problem is, "faith" might allow you to do theological conjuring tricks like that, to enable you to avoid asking yourself awkward questions, but looked at from the outside in it really does look like people burying their heads in the sand and trying to pretend that black is somehow white, to be honest.

 

Maybe cause God is just a symbol and not a physical object?

 

Wow... what a scintillating argument!

 

Thanx, was just the first thing that came to mind.

Not to summon a tounge lashing,.......Jeez

 

Who is it spending their Sundays on a computer?

Something better to do?

 

I should have gone to mass, but the service is just so boring!

 

Yeah, they sure can be that.

 

I like the hymns, but the rest is just so dull.

 

He doesn't show himself, because he doesn't exist.

 

How do you know that?

 

Ruh-roh!

Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. And with that: the question of whether a god exists becomes unimportant and foolish. It is exclusively made up of assumptions.

It can lead to good fiction writing, the idea of deities.

 

How on earth do you know that if you didn't go? Got a crystal ball?

Agree totally with Marxist. There is no God, not now, or ever.

 

God does not show himself? So Jesus does not count?

Adam and Eve said to have walked and talked with God in the garden, yet they lost faith and partook of the forbidden fruit.

The Israelites saw God do great miracles in Egypt and in the desert and in the promised land as seas parted before them, yet they lost faith and built a golden calf to worship in his stead etc.

So tell me, what good has it done God in the past to "prove" his existence? I think what he is looking for are people who wish to place their faith in him. Typically, those you love you place your faith in, this is all he is after.

Just out of curiosity, how would anyone hear change their ways if God "proved" he existed?

 

Jesus is not God and didn't exist either. Nor did Adam and Eve. Only a simpleton would accept those stories. And quote the Bible as evidence of itself being fact. That's just nonsensical.

"Prove the Bible is the word of God", someone asks.

The person responding opens his Bible and shows the passage that says so. Ridiculous.

If that is how truth works then heaven help those 3 little pigs as that wolf is gonna get them.

No one has ever seen God and there is not a shred of evidence that such a being exists now or ever. You're reading from a book of fantasies, not a factual book.

For your deity's sake, wake up. And give it up. You think what he is looking for is..... how on earth does your thoughts have anything to do with anything, it only proves you have dreams. End of story.

 

I'm sorry, did I say that I proved the stories in the Bible? If nothing else, they should be parables to you, much like the ones Jesus used to get his points across. As such do you see any lessons whatsoever?

 

Perhaps... but good lessons? Not that often. Original thoughts... not really. So... what's the point of all of this?

 

Your naive ignorance of basic theology and the ability to interpret simple bible astounds and troubles me! Maybe you should reject those that use your ignorance of scripture to make you look like foolish to those that actually are Christian and actually are educated in theology. Try using something instead of cherry picked scripture, your satanic attempts of foolery might work on those that already are steeped in hate for God and all things christian but they do not work for those unbeleivers and believers that have half an mind.

Now that your attempts at deception have been exposed lets have a look at the scripture in FULL, with related scriptures, not a cherry picked excerpt of the whole; Matthew 3:10-12: “Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

More total BS, IMO. Jesus does approve of much of Mosaic law, however he came to say that we do not have to follow that law and that his words overrule most of that law!!! Basic stuff kid. Additionally, whats wrong afraid to post the scripture? You sure don't think anyone trusts your atheist god and christian hating comical attempts of an biblical interpretation eh? I sure don't and will not take your perverted ideas of Christianity as anything but an attempt at deceiving the ignorant. So lets tear your pathetic argument apart; Since you so conveniently left out the book and such I have to guess you mean this beautiful passage "29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell."

I am not surprised that you lack the ability to understand simple bible scripture, your prior replies demonstrate that you are a Google scholar and desperately search the web for anything that would support your toxic hate for anything good concerning Christianity.Too bad your comments don't fool anyone except maybe your own self. Losing your own soul is bad enough, please don't try to drag anyone else to Sheol with you! Anwway here is what that scripture means; its better to tear out your eye than lose your soul, thats all its that simple.[/quote] Next time provide the book verse etc.

More lies and falsehoods intentional or not. Do you want some clear scripture on that subject? >>>Matt 25;41 Then shall he say also to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels" THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS ...GET IT? No I think that is beyond you, the truth is blocked by your seething hate for all things good.

Where it say HELL in your source????? More feeble attempts at deception. Outer darkness is living forever without god or it could mean losing self-awareness and ending up in Sheol (the grave). Can you not see how deceptive that is? If you can't man you have some SERIOUS PROBLEMS. Ha ha really!

Oh no Jesus is a pig murder! What total comic releif , yes I am laughing at you not with you...call PETA for christs sake! It was better to exorcise the demons from a man and put them in a pig than to push the man over the cliff, whats wrong with you man?

Oh you mean where the demonic citizens of S&G wanted and attempted to rape the angels? Dang I wonder why God didnt give those demons a big freaking hug? Again, that is Old Testament, and talking about events that happened 5000 years ago (more or less) and the author was speaking of demons and subhumans who lived then with men. Anyway, you are slipping Jesus is love. Your comical attempts to deceive everyone that reads your totally false and deceptive message (and those of your handlers) are just that.

Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." 10:34-36[/quote]

end of part one ha ha!

 

Part 2 ~


Again I already answered that! Its basic bible! K4 Sunday school stuff brother! means that time for living a lie is over the sword he speaks of is truth! Its better to leave your family than to live a lie as an unbeliever, HOW MANY TIMES MUST I SAY THAT????

Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. 11:20-24
Jesus will send his angels to gather up "all that offend" and they "shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." 13:41-42, 50[/QUOTE]

That is parable and he is saying that its better to choose God than to take the advice of your unsaved relatives. Again you fail to provide complete reference to the scripture. This is the last time I will comment on a STRAWMAN rebuttal with half assed source info.

It may sound like it because your handlers want you to beleive a lie! "die the death does not mean murder, try to research these lies and falsehoods before you swallow them hook line and sinker. You will not look so ignorant if you would put a little effort in searching for the truth.

I have already answered that (above), its saying its better to lose an eye than not having an eternal life.

More utter falsehoods and decption. It's as you said a parable, non factual remarks to teach a moral lesson.... get it?

[/QUOTE]Jesus had no problem with the idea of drowning everyone on earth in the flood. It'll be just like that when he returns. 24:37
God will come when people least expect him and then he'll "cut them asunder." And "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 24:50-51
The servant who kept and returned his master's talent was cast into the "outer darkness" where there will be "weeping and gnashing of teeth." 25:30
Jesus tells us what he has planned for those that he dislikes. They will be cast into an "everlasting fire." 25:41
Jesus says the (*)(*)(*)(*)ed will be tormented forever. 25:46[/QUOTE]

Again there was not ONE righteous 'person' on earth except for Noah and his family (a pure DNA). These were not people as we understand them, they had no soul and were subhuman neptunium giants and other demonic species. God cleansed the earth so Noah's DNA (human) could repopulate the earth.

No, because you do not have the ability to understand basic scripture, and I am sure that the prophetic book of Revelations and its dream interpretation visions and such would completely baffle you what you should do is to tell your handlers to go to hell and that you can think for yourself, then take the time to actually read the bible, which you have absolutely NO knowledge of, you beleive what others have told you and a lot of the brainless comment was straight up plagiarized out of Anti God websites.

So no please save it. Your anti god hate spewing agenda is clear. I am not going to apologize for this unedited reply either. Making it better would just wasted time for you are about a millimeter from being a lost cause/soul. Still I will hope that you wake up and see that you are being manipulated by those that live to hate.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

That URL explains everything. As I said plagiarize away! However to know truth read the bible for yourself and stop being a puppet for demons, or live with the ultimate consequences.

Ra'h