Republicans Maintain Control Of Wisconsin Senate

"Entrenched seats"....??? What a crock of crap. When did they become "entrenched" ? Last November?

The voters of Wisconsin made sure that Gov. Walker has what he needs to keep on keepin' on, despite the UnionDemThugs importing out-of-state money, muscle and political strategists.

The Dem's goal was to RETAKE the Senate,and they outspent the GOP by more than 2 to 1 to do so, and they FAILED MISERABLY.

All you are doing is the standard Leftninny "The Voters Rejecting Us Really Means We Won" , Gobbledygookthink nonsense.

Enjoy your delusions, and get ready for 2012; you'll have PLENTY to "Pretend your Loss was really a win" over...I promise you.

( BTW- Nothing says social neophyte, living im mommy's basement, like "lol" on everything a person posts.)

 

Both Republicans won their 2008 elections in a huge Democratic wave year. Now they're toast.

 

They were far from "entrenched". Make up some more nonsense, to convince yourself that this wasn't a MAJOR DEFEAT for the Sleazocrats.

Whatever you need to tell yourself....

 

No upper bound.

 

Kapanke's district voted for Walker by a slim margin.
Walker carried Hoppers district by 16 points.

 

Lol, the Repub's lose 2 seats and they consider it a victory. Congrats on not being "that bad".

 

You still lose. Get used to it; you'll be doing more of it, a LOT more of it, next year.

 

Walker gets recalled next year.

How's governor Feingold sound to you?

 

I like the sound of that! Feingold losing in 2010 was the most discouraging result of that election, as I opined at the time.

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...rty-candidates-shown-door-11.html#post3119871

Wisconsin has kind of gone off its rocker the past couple of years. At least some are coming to their senses seeing how extremist and anti-freedom Republicans are.

 

You folks spent $30 million in the recall elections. You had to win three of the six seats up in the recall in order to take control of the WI Senate from Republicans. You won two of those elections. Your side failed to achieve its goal. It only won two seats, not three. Close doesn't count.

You folks accomplished nothing in changing the conservative agenda in WI, but spend money you didn't have. I watched MSNBC tonight. They carried the recall elections live. The long faces of the unhappy leftists had defeat written all over them.

 

I am not infavor of T-baggers or Republicans. However, in some cases the style and ideas of republican conservatives do fit well and are best for government. But this is only when their ideas meet the demand for what is needed to fix a State. For example, Democrats would continue to cater and coddle the State's employee unions for stuff like education. Republicans on the other hand would be opposed to big government and huge power of the employee unions for public schools. So, in this example the State of WI needs to bring down the State debt by using the Republicans to over power and block more funding for public education, and reduce the overwhelming union power the employees unions have over the taxpayer and government.

If the cost of public education was lower, and the government employee unions had no power over the WI taxpayer, then I would likely favor the Democrat State politicians who push the agenda of development and innovation.

Thus, WI is on the right track to use Republicans to get their State budget in order, and to balance out the powers of the Taxpayer funded Unions that hold the WI Taxpayer hostage for more money.

 

Yea, screw stupid things like education!! We don't need that! What we need is an army of Wal-Mart employees selling goods made by Chinese sweatshop laborers!

 

So the reason our school system under performs globally is because of a lack of funding?

Surely you could dig up some empirical evidence to support that.

I'll wait.

 

I agree, we don't need to pay stupid amounts of money for drop out factories. But we do need more of the public education system to pump out more simple minded slow thinking consumers so they can buy crap they don't need and borrow on junk they can't afford. If China can educate their kids smarter and better for 20x less, why can't the USA? If Cuba can do it for 20x less why can't the USA do it? If we didn't have so many stupid consumers, there would be no Wallmart. Education is not stupid, the wealthy people pay for their own kids private school and the others in public school to assure thier kids will be smarter than the public school consumers.

 

There is no lack of funding for Public Schools in the USA. The problem is overfunding durning the 1990s when States had a great expansion during the profitable years. They created smaller classes, more teachers, more infrastructure, and more administration. Back then the public schools were only about 50% of the State's Budget. Today with the down economy the Public School financial burden on the States are at 65%, and will be grwoing. Why, because as the economy stays at this pace for the next 4-8 years, Tax revenue will slide, buisnesses will innovate and be more effecient or bust, and the public schools will continue to consume the same amount of tax money while cutting spending by a small percent. As a result the Individual States will continue to borrow on corprate bonds at A and B+ ratings with no ability to pay off the schools debt obligations.

Unlike other government services that consume only 35% of the State's tax revenue, it must support over 70% of it's polulation with public safety, courts and corrections, and human services. Untill the individual States can bring down the percent of money they spend on public schools and universites to the levels of other services, they will allways be in debt and struggling.

By the way, the massive amounts of tax money that public shools have consumed only shows a decline in performance. Such that the more they make the worst they perform.

FYI, check out any annual financial statement of any private investment company or mutual funds company. Specifically one of the bond funds. There you will find how much money each State's education system is borrowing from that specific investor. This is stuff you will not hear about at your PTA or DOE board of education meetings. In fact they may be talking about it in the next few days on the Charlie Rose or News hour broadcasts.

If you consider the thousands of investment corporations lending to the Public Schools systems you will be amazed at the hundreds of billions one school district has in debt. This stuff should be investigated. But, fools don't like regulations by governments.

 

Our school system is not a failure. We have a large group of idiot students with degenerate parents that are bringing the school system down. That does not mean the country would be better off with out education, it just means they are not meeting our expected standard of education.

It's an amazing logical fallacy that you think that because they are not meeting expectations that abolishing the system would therefore be better for American education.

 

Wisconsin says NO to the lazy union progressives!

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Republicans held onto control of the Wisconsin Senate on Tuesday, beating back four Democratic challengers in a recall election despite an intense political backlash against GOP support for Gov. Scott Walker's effort to curb public employees' union rights.

Fueled by millions of dollars from national labor groups, the attempt to remove GOP incumbents served as both a referendum on Walker's conservative revolution and could provide a new gauge of the public mood less than a year after Republicans made sweeping gains in this state and many others.

Two Democratic incumbents face recalls next week, but even if Democrats win those they will still be in the minority.

Turnout was strong in the morning and steady in the afternoon in communities such as Whitefish Bay, Menomonee Falls and Shorewood, where Sen. Alberta Darling was one of the four Republicans to hold onto her seat.

Tony Spencer, a 36-year-old laid-off carpenter from Shorewood, voted for Darling's challenger, Democratic state Rep. Sandy Pasch.

"I'm in a private union, so they haven't necessarily come after me," Spencer said. "But everybody should have the right to be in a union. I came out to stop all the union-bashing stuff."

John Gill, 45, of Menomonee Falls, voted for Darling and questioned the opposition's anti-GOP rhetoric, which went far beyond collective bargaining.

"This was all supposed to be about the workers' rights, so to speak. But that has not been brought up one time. It's all been misleading, the attack ads, things like that," Gill said. "The one reason they started this recall, they didn't bring up once."

Until this year, there had been only 20 attempts since 1913 to recall any of the nation's state lawmakers from office. Just 13 of the efforts were successful.

Also winning on Tuesday was Democratic state Rep. Jennifer Shilling of La Crosse, defeating incumbent Republican Sen. Dan Kapanke, who had been in the Senate since 2004. The other Republican ousted was first-term incumbent Sen. Randy Hopper of Fond du Lac, defeated by Democrat Jessica King, the former deputy mayor of Oshkosh.

Republican Sens. Sheila Harsdorf of River Falls, Rob Cowles of Allouez and Luther Olsen of Ripon all held onto their seats.

The stakes in Wisconsin were clearly much larger than control of the Senate. Democrats cast the recall results, in which they picked up two seats, as a rebuff of the Republican revolution started by Walker but it clearly wasn't all that they wanted. Both parties also were testing messages ahead of the 2012 presidential race, in which Wisconsin was expected to be an important swing state.

Republican and Democratic strategists were leery of reading too much into the results heading into next year's campaign.

The recall effort helped stir passions in the Democratic base "in ways we might never have been able to achieve on our own," said Roy Temple, a Democratic political consultant with extensive experience in the Midwest. But, he said, that doesn't mean the recall can offer much more than hints about broader trends.

"Wisconsin was a swing state before, and it will be after," Temple said. "Maybe (the recall) is a sign of strong intensity, and that's not meaningless, but it's not predictive."

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said the party was "all in" to win the races. A coalition of national unions spent millions on attack ads and other campaign activity to wrest seats from the Republicans. Conservative groups also spent millions.

It all amounted to a summer unlike any other in Wisconsin. More than $31 million was estimated to have been spent on the nine recall efforts, rivaling the $37 million spent on last year's governor's race.

"I feel that a lot of people didn't get their way, threw a crybaby fit and decided to have a recall. The majority of Wisconsin already voted," said 43-year-old Ross Birkigt of Menomonee Falls. "It's a shame that all of sudden this happens and that a lot of special-interest money gets poured into it. I'm kind getting sick of seeing this stuff on TV every single minute.

Republicans won control of both houses of the Legislature and the governor's office in the 2010 election just nine months ago.

The Legislature that had been approving Republican-backed bills in rapid succession would likely have ground to a halt if Democrats had won back the Senate. They would then have been able to block anything from passage without a bipartisan agreement.

Any newly elected senator will take office within 15 days, a brief window in which Republican Senate leaders could call a lame-duck session if they are about to lose control.

The races next Tuesday target Sens. Bob Wirch of Pleasant Prairie and Jim Holperin of Conover.

http://news.yahoo.com/wis-gop-holds-...052219906.html


Swallow this Liberal retards!

 

Abolishing Public Schools and State funded Universities would be the only solution to a better education system in the USA. Private schools educate premere students and scholors for less than half the cost of a public school kid. Shure the next excuse is there are those who can't learn and have special needs. Again, there are Developmental Disability services that manage and train students and adults for 1/4 the cost of what the public school education does it for. In addition, the consumers of these programs have a more favorable rating with better outcomes than the public schools systems.

The Private school teacher has no union to keep them employed, and they perform or get the boot. That is the way they perform better. Some of them even have leadership skills and create leaders of the future.

With private schools government would only need to regulate and monitor the schools. If parents pay for the schooling they will take an interest in their kids progress (or may be not with the new generation of lazy unskilled parents).

To get back on track, the Republicans in this situation is needed to protect the simple minded and slow thinking taxpayer of their own demise. I'm not saying the Republicans know what they are doing, I'm saying in this situation with a too big to financially fail Public school system that is backed by government funded Employee Unions, that the Unions and schools have more power and decision making ability than the taxpayer that pays for it, and more powerfull than the government that is the gatekeeper of the funding.

If these consepts are to difficult to understand, than the State of WI should be financialy screwed over by the schools, who use the failing kids as their poster childs for more money, more money, more money.

 

This truly demonstrates the mood and attitude for Americans today. They are tired of the spend thrifts that want to give people government hand outs at every turn. The Democrats who kiss up to unions for votes.

This is a huge victory for America!

 

This is a huge victory for all working people that care more about their communities that lining their own pockets.

 

Where I get the greatest joy from this fantastic news is in watching that fat head socialist Ed Shultz eat friggin crow for constantly telling the people that the vote was going to have national implications for the middle class. Anytime we can eliminate or take power away from the dwindling socialist unions is another victory for our Republic. Kudos to the smart people in Wisconson.

 

That was great news to wake up to this morning. Last night, I thought the Dems were going to take control. But no.....the Republicans held. And there's a good chance that they'll recapture even more of it back, as two Dems under recall are up for a vote next week. Nothing for Republicans to lose there.....only possibly gains. Even with ALL that outside money pouring in from other Unions that don't even live in Wisconsin.....it STILL didn't work for them.

YEA Republicans in Wisconsin!!! GREAT job!!

 

It's not only the great news, it could not have been any other way. Still, I am happy...

 

and the Union Bosses manage to squander a few more millions of dollars of the members dues which could have been invested in retirement accounts instead of a vain attempt for political power. One of these days the members might figure out that their leaders don't give a rats rear about anything other than power and control

Considering how much money was spent of Unions busing people to the polls and feeding them and still ended up with a failure to regain control this sure is a bellwether for the 2012's. Looks like 2012 will bring us a GOP controlled Senate, House, and Presidency

 

It sounds to me like you guys poured tens of millions into the effort to take control in Wisconsin and you didn't do it (though you really really tried and said you would), and now you are moving the goal posts in order to save face.