Does anyone actually think that ANY of the candidates will help things?

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  1. shhs97

    shhs97 New Member

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    I'll start if off. Obama will do absolutely nothing to help the majority of the country.
    Does anyone actually look at any of the challengers and say, YEAH, now that guy/gal has got what it takes! HE/SHE will turn this country around.

    I sure don't. A bunch of corporate hacks. Nothing more.
    We'll end up with record profits (when was the last time we DIDN"T have record profits?) and an ever increasing poor population.
     
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    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    Ron Paul is the only candidate who will win for America. The rest will win for special interests at the expense of America. The problem is that even if he gets elected, he won't be able to do anything to undo the damage because 1) he will be surrounded by Collectivists, and 2) he will follow the Constitution. That's assuming he doesn't mysteriously commit suicide or get struck by lightning before being inaugurated, of course.
     
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    NO.. they don't know how to fix it... time is probably the answer.
     
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    Do you want the USA to economically collapse in 2013 or 2015? Vote Democrat for 2013 and Republican for 2015. I'll take the two extra years. Thus, Republican for me although I have only voted Republican twice in the last 20 years (2008 president and 2009 governor).
     
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    i'm not sure if any of them can help....we need more than a new president, or new Congress-we need a new way of thinking.
     
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    We should be so lucky that Obama will/would do absolutely nothing to help the majority of the country.

    The benefit of any of the candidates is that they will remove Obama so he cannot continue to hurt the majority of the country.
     
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    LOLOL.. Obama isn't the problem.. Wishful thinking.
     
  8. James Cessna

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    You are very correct, Subdermal.

    The policy endorsed and promoted by the liberals today of setting the stage for a "world government' is Barack Obama's long-held idea.

    After Obama is defeated in the national elections next year, the pendulum will swing the other direction and we will be safe once again.

    You do know the biggest and most powerful proponent of a "new world government" is George Soros, right?

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    "And the liberal news media prints and exactly reports every word I tell him to say!"
     
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    LOLOL.. you don't know squat about Soros , do you?


     
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    Ron Paul is the only candidate I have hope in. I don't like Obama, but that doesn't mean that I will vote for anybody else simply to get him out. Someone like Rick Perry or Mitt Romney will not really improve this country, and besides, I believe Ron Paul has the best chance to win head-to-head with Obama compared to the other Republicans. Winning the primary will be the toughest part for him.
     
  11. James Cessna

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    Margot, you are funny!

    It is obvious I know more about George Soros than you do.

    Let's compare notes.

    You go first!

    Ah-ha! ... Not up to the challenge, we see!

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    With these incorrect and misleading assumptions, "Margot" drops another one!"
     
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    You are very mistaken, shhs97.

    If people would stay in school, get a good education and work hard every day, they too would become very successful.

    But too many people today would rather take the "easy" way out, and then they "moan and groan" and complain because other people, the "wealth creators", who have worked hard all their lives, have so much more than they do!

    Sad ... Very Sad.

    These people have no one to blame for their misfortunes but themselves.

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  13. Subdermal

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    Scintillating argument.

    (Alsonotreally)

    Business recognizes that the paralysis we are experiencing is due to a failure of leadership from this Administration, and the uncertainties of future costs (ObamaCare being foremost, but threats to raise taxes included) - as well as bushels of additional business regulation.

    The problem is absolutely Obama.
     
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    Congress, the Senate in particular, is a dysfunctional mess. Probably the only thing that could turn the ship of state around would be a parliamentary system.
     
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    shhs97 New Member

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    Last time I looked, there were over 18 million people with college degrees who were waiters and waitresses. Probably more than that work in retail. So, yeah, you are pretty much completely incorrect.
     
  16. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps the problem is that kids getting out of college think they get handed a 6 figure job right away. Everyone has to start at the bottom and there's no shame in any honest living, including being a waiter or waitress.
     
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    Ummm. You're the one who is wrong here, Kemo Sabe. Education is probably the single most determinate factor in a person acquiring wealth (other than inheriting it).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_the_United_States#Education

    That said, not all degrees are the same. A bachelors degree in engineering comes close to guaranteeing a good paying job after graduation, even in today's economy. A degree in psychology, sociology or history - not so much.
     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Your generizations of the candidates (a bunch of corporate hacks) is broad and generally ignorant. You're like a surgeon that brings a shovel to the operation because you are impatient with the tedious, time consuming nature of actually figuring out what the problem is and fixing it. You're an intellectual oaf.

    Every candidate brings something different to the table. Herman Cain would slash corporate income tax and capital gains tax which would cause our economy to rocket up while unemployment plummets. Ron Paul would give us something we've been wanting for the last 11 years. Peace. Our troops would come home and our foreign policy would be gentler. We would then proceed to tackle far more important tasks such as getting RID of the federal reserve. Michelle Bachman has the ability to energize the base like no one else and Rick Perry pulls no punches in his defense of conservative ideals. Mitt Romney would bring his wayward, leftist ideas with him so that even liberals would feel included in the new administration. Hopefully we can find a convicted felon or a child molester to be president before we have Romney.

    With the exception of Romney, I'd be happy with any of these candidates win the Primary. My vote is going to Herman Cain because his bold measures are just what we need in the dire situation we find ourselves. But I would be just as happy to vote for Ron Paul or any of the other candidates not from Massechussettes.
     
  19. CKW

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    Yes, who we elect will make a big difference. What makes this country work are Americans. All we need is someone that believes in America, Americans, Capitalism and American-exceptionalism. That person will stay out of the way of American citizens.

    It sounds like you want a government to control corporations. What we need is a government that will mind its own business and leave the private sector alone.

    We have good candidates and they will make a difference.
     
  20. James Cessna

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    You are funny, shhs97.

    You are making this stuff up and you know it.

    The unemployment rate among most college graduates today is less that 5%.

    Among people with a professional degree it is less than 2.5%.

    The "average" salaries of these people range from $1038 to $1550 per month.

    I assure you with these salaries, these people do not work in retail department stores or are waiters and waitresses in restaurants!


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    Note: Data are 2010 annual averages for persons age 25 and over. Earnings are for full-time wage and salary workers.

    Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics, Current Population Survey.
     
  21. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    That's a good graph, James
     

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