Blacks Call for Democrat Carson to Resign Over Tea Party 'Hanging' Slam

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  1. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    You are reading A TON in the question, how is calling a political group racist racism.
     
  2. Veni-Vidi-Feces

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    Nah, you yourself are not disparaging, or hating a specific race, you are claiming democrats are racist. You are disparaging democrats, and being very stereotypical, but you are not being a racist.
     
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    How is it not racist? I'm saying a huge group of people wanna see "black people" hanging from trees. Sounds hella racist to me.
     
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    Given that connection between Tea Partiers and the neo-conferate movement there is no doubt about the deep racists roots of these subliterate fools.

    They have been outted.

    http://leftwingnoisemachine.com/11/post/2011/04/the-tea-partys-neo-confederacy.html
     
  5. Veni-Vidi-Feces

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    The hypothetical in no way suggests that YOU ARE SAYING that a given _____race_______ is ______stereotypical hateful derogatory insult_______. In fact you are suggesting a given group is racist. Now if you said all those ________race_______ democrats are all just white hating MFers, that would be racist. Since the group you are insulting is not a race, your comment isn't racist.... don't misconstrue there's bunches wrong with the hypothesis racism just isn't one of the things wrong.
     
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    Pretty much true....that's some rigorous standard you got there. A funny bit.
     
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    Obama loves the anti-Tea Party hate propaganda. Remember who his mentor was for 20 years.
     
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    Ron Paul is the grandfather of the tea party movement. He's been around for decades, as have his supporters.
     
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    Actually, Ron Paul and his libertarian base have been protesting big government long before your Marxist Messiah sullied the Oval Office. The tea party is just an offshoot of that movement. The financial collapse and the bailouts just woke them up to what people like Ron Paul and myself have been saying for years: Big government is screwing up our country, and will continue to do so as long we remain indifferent.

    I guess you've never heard of libertarians.
     
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    Right, because what this country needs is more government spending and intervention to fix the problem. That's just what businesses are looking for. Man, you liberals really know what the private sector needs...:roll:
     
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    How about one of your liberal allies labeling Colin Powell and Condi Rice as "African American stooges"? Does that count?
     
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    The liberal media has made it a point to ignore libertarians.
     
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    I thought it was the conservative political machine that ignored libertarians?
     
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    What are you talking about!? Obama basically got us into a war without authorization from the Congress. That's about as much latitude as a President can get. He's also initiating the dream act through regulatory FIAT, as well as cap and trade schema. You're just blind.
     
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    They do too, but they're not as bad as the liberals.
     
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    At least the liberals aren't hypocrites about it.
     
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    In a sentence: After the '08 elections, some right-leaning business interests and think tanks saw the previously more normalized, centrist TEA Party movement, and figured they could stoke up public outrage, hijacked it, drained out any intellectualism and basically turned it into a think tank for a GOP which is leaning more to the right than ever before.



    Dude...the TEA Party is no longer a libertarian movement, it's a freakshow of disgruntled people with misdirected anger, social conservatives and people who talk about less government while supporting the exact opposite (a.k.a. 99% of the GOP.) Lew Rockwell, who is practically a mentor to Paul, even publicly ditched the movement.

    Carson's comments are overt and uncalled for, but there isn't really an equal standard being applied when many far-right GOPers apply the same strawmen towards those on the other side of the aisle and often are referred to as 'challenging the PC police' or 'being brave.'
     
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    lol

    Good one.
     
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    I never said the tea party movement was still libertarian, but it's a bit more nuanced than you give it credit for. It's a very diverse movement, just like any populist movement.
     
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    Finally! Some sanity.
     
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    Conservatives and Libertarians can agree without argument that Obama sucks,and so do his Marxist/Progressive minions.As a Conservative,I agree with Ron Paul on many things,including his stance on the Feds,and their monetary policies and wanting to go back to the Gold standard ,but disagree with his some of his foreign policies.Most recently his stance on Iran.But I would take Ron Paul anyday over ObaMao.
     
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    my local Tea Party is made up of not only Conservatives,but Independents,Libertarian,Constitutionalists,disgruntled Democrats that are seeing their party getting hijacked in the form of Socialism.Our message to the Government is mostly STOP SPENDING ALL THE (*)(*)(*)(*)ING MONEY!!
     
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    A variety of groups may be in partial unity by some basic economic agreements, but the fact is, the tea party element which involves political action largely leans right, especially on the social scale. Republicans who were elected under the tea party banner have a tendency to claim they support small government, but often support federal amendments banning gay marriage or forcing through personhood amendments, which as a result of their unscientific premise, would effectively prohibit almost all forms of birth control, along with unceasing support for the unconstitutional failure of a War on Drugs to the point where people like Gary Johnson and Ron Paul get mud slinged at them on a regular basis for even questioning it, and universal backing of the failed War in Iraq (I wasn't against a WAR, it was just there was no legitimate reason to go into Iraq if we were responding to the 9/11 attacks and when fighting terrorist cells, it's a war of intelligence, hundreds of thousands of ground troops is a destabilizing force at the cost of busting a few dozen cells.)

    The tea party has SOME (capitalize SOME once more for effect) libertarians, and disillusioned Democrats but right now, the movement seems to be more spear-headed by neo-conservative GOP supporters judging by how Bachmann and Perry continue to be utilizing the tea party banner and getting the majority of their support from the GOP's core base (which is now basically tea party leaning.) The movement is basically a joke among most libertarians/anarcho-capitalists/skeptics and even a good deal of moderate republicans at the moment...
     
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    You are right, the tea parties should have gained momentum during the GW years, and Dems and Reps and Libertarians should have made noise.
    But no one wanted to listen to that voice from TX.
    Libs were too busy badmouthing and protesting the wars, a group here, a group there. Nothing that amounted to a cohesive movement, as we see now.
    But most people, from both sides of the aisle, were getting tired of runaway Gov, and all that came along with it, and the fires were kindled.
    Along came a man, not the black man, but one with very socialistic tendencies, (he made it clear that he wanted to take from some to give to others, and still does), who went around the world to apologize for who and what we are, and again, not because his daddy was of color, but because his ultimate goal seemed to be to dismantle everything we hold dear.
    At the same time, we had a very liberal majority in Congress, a House led by a woman who, instead of listening to all people, rather seemed to represent the radical left only, as does her colleague in the Senate.
    That is why people were and are upset.
    The tea party, with all its faults, made up of people like you and me, wasn't formed because of a black man in the WH, but because of what this man, who happened to be half black, represents.
    Instead of American people fighting each other, debating the color of the dude's skin, we should pay more attention to what DC does, and come together to hold our politicians responsible for their action, hold them to the promised they made, and not let up regardless who is in office.
    But carry on, point fingers at the people next to you, instead of DC, and continue to be played.
    If you think the movement is one sided, join in, balance it. Lets come together, Black, White, Hispanic and Asian, and lets make this happen. Lets make sure Gov represents us and not themselves. Lets make sure we have a job to go to, lets make sure spending doesn't get out of hand, and Gov doesn't take over every aspect of our lives. Its not who and what we are.
    But lets make on thing clear, the tea party movement is not racist. The only racists are those who perceive it as such.
     
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    Regardless, it's unfair, and wrong. The good, the bad, and everything else have to be considered otherwise looking at history is entirely pointless. What is there to learn from a selective view? I just can't see that that flag in that light. That would be the same as me, using the pepsi symbol, and committing crime. Would you consider me associated with Pepsi? I drink Pepsi, there fore I hold the same thoughts as Pepsi, so I of course have to represent Pepsi. No you'd be like first this guys in trouble and secondly he's getting sued for misrepresenting himself with another groups symbol. Same here. Just because the KKK picked up the flag, doesn't mean they own it, or are represented by it. Fact is if the KKK starts waving around Hershey Bars...I'm going to ignore the cloaked morons and still eat the candy bar brand. Salvaging is nearly impossible, but unless you look at all sides of the picture, not just one, you'll never get anywhere in your thinking.

    Open your mind to the topic and you'll see my point. I didn't live through segregation, etc. I'm not even from the south. I don't have these influences effecting my opinion. What I have is a clear, unbiased look, at this issue.
     

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