Good Grief, a 7 year old transgender with transgender "dad"

The only thing you've figured out is how to make an even bigger ass out of yourself.

Now you are just lying.

My question once again:

I'll even dumb it down for you. You don't condemn what they did. WHY?

 

I would support gay marriage if it were the law of the land. I would support civil unions, ditto. After all, both my heterosexual marriages were just that, civil unions. No church was involved; the first wife was Reform Jewish, and the second a lapsed Unitarian. The LAW is what made (makes, technically) us married, not some religion or other.

But my man and I have long ago decided that we would never go for the second-class citizenship of state statutes authorizing such same-sex relationships. If civil unions, or marriage, are voted for by Congress so that I have all the rights in every other state that I do in, say, New York or Massachusetts, me and Roy would file for such a relationship (he's Jewish too, long lapsed).

We really couldn't give a rat's patootie if we ever get MARRIED. Civil Unions is my strong preference.

But till such a law is passed we shall prefer to be unofficial.

WPH from MS

 

Excuse me, whatdoes religion have to do with this? Care you so shallow in your defense of this that you have to create some off shoot diversion off topic to try and bolster your defense of this?

Try to stay focused on the tread topic without going all anti-religious in a non-religious thread for a change.

 

Once again, saying you support civil unions is meaningless. You cannot grasp that something that is separate is not equal.

You can jump up and down all day long, call me names, but it does not change the fact that if something is separate, it cannot be equal per the Supreme Court.

There ya go again, using the term mutilation.

First off the child has not received sex reassignment surgery. So your questions is out of ignorance. Ignorance that you don't even know the whole story.

Second off, in a sex change operation, is simple taking away one sexual organ and turning it into another. If you want to call that mutilation, then I would highly suggest you go after all cosmetic surgeries. Using your (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up definition, any and all cosmetic surgeries would be 'mutilation'.

Not that I expect this to sink into your head. You are too blinded by you anti GBLT agenda.

 

Very simple. The religious right wants to condemn the 'brainwashing' of this child, but yet when faced with brainwashing of children in religious camps, they have no response and simply ignore it.

Its shows the absolute hypocrisy of the righties and shows their true agenda – anti GBLT. They could careless about this child. All they care about is the anti GBLT agenda.

 

You are asking for equal consideration for something you can't prove is anything more than a choice with something that is inherently genetic in nature ie not a choice.

Why is it that the simplest things are what you cannot grasp?

still ducking.

More ducking. You have said you support it.

hahahaha Once again like a coward you duck the issue.

Until you can explain how you can support the action but understand that the evidence is nothing more than a child who emulated the MOTHER then you have nothing to stand on.

 

This is actually a very good video. Thank you for posting it.

I notice a few of things in the video:

1 - Once Jackie was able to live a girl, she was able to come out of her shell and made new friends. This is good. Teen rates in the GLBT community are way to high. Acceptance of people just because they are 'different' than you is a good thing.

2 – The only two in her family that wasn’t too support of this was the grandpas. This really is not surprised as they are part of the old intolerant guard.

3 – Some on this board seem to think that kids at 2 or 3 or 4 are incapable of seeing gender issues. That doesn’t seem like that case if you watch the video. When 'jack' gets a barbie doll and gets all excited, and then gets a toy truck and tosses it aside, that's says a lot.

 

Let ms ask this again:

What does religion have to do with this story?

Do you approve of this wacked out dad, doing this to his son? And I am sorry, answering me with some bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about religion isn't an answer to the question.

 

And since you cannot prove that heterosexuality is nothing more than a choice, why does your choice get special rights?

I've already stated that this may be the case here:

Is this what you are arguing? A strawman?

 

Very simple. The religious right wants to condemn the 'brainwashing' of this child, but yet when faced with brainwashing of children in religious camps, they have no response and simply ignore it.

Its shows the absolute hypocrisy of the righties and shows their true agenda – anti GBLT. They could careless about this child. All they care about is the anti GBLT agenda.

I guess I had to repost this.

I cannot debate nor answer questions from religious hypocrites who have hidden agendas.

Not that I expect a myth fearing righty like you to understand this.

 

LOL Because as we have seen many times over, heterosexuality is geneitc. Aside from basic procreation needing a man and woman which you keep running away from is the same biological sexual reaction in all people gay or straight is to prepare the body for procreation which requires heterosexual sex.

This is the part where you run away like a coward from that basic truth.

hahahahaha Thank you for taking the bait.

You support the surgery.

I quote:

The same question remains. How can you defend the surgery when you admit there is no evidence beyond wanting to emulate the MOTHER that this should be done.


Go ahead, duck it again and your quote. You've made this dumbass claim many times in here. Go ahead, explain it.

 

shall i save a spot for you on the wall where I'm beating my head?

 

Instead of beating your head, perhaps you should look in the mirror and see the hypocrisy of lambasting this father, but when faced with religious training camps where kids are being brainwashed, YOU REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE this.

It simply shows your true colors. You don’t give a dam about this kid. All you care about is your anti-GBLT agenda.

 

Once again... toy preference is not indicative of homosexuality! This is not debatable. The whole notion is just silly. Toys are man made figures.. built to fit into man made gender social constructs. They are not magical "crystal balls" showing you the sexuality of your child.

Let me see if I can explain this in simple terms...

Things we experience as a child.. LOTS of things.. EVERYTHING.. help to form who we are and what our preferences are. A boy who has a deep connection with his mother, aunts, sisters, etc may very well prefer to play with barbie dolls because of the sense of security he gets from the perceived femininity of the object. It doesn't mean he is GAY! Don't regard your little boys as GAY because they like feminine toys! Ignorant, confused, or "over tolerant" parents do far more damage than parents who think boys are boys and girls are girls.

Little girls play with barbie dolls because they are told from birth that it's what little girls do. It is a plastic unrealistic figure of a humanoid female.. created by a horny man and mass marketed to more ADULT women than to children. If it was not a socially unacceptable thing to do.. chances are little boys would play with barbies more than little girls.. because barbie has boobies. Hell even grown gay men don't like barbie... Because it has boobies.

There is no genetic tendency for girls or homosexuals to want to play with a barbie doll. If there were.. you would know it because little girls would draw pictures of tiny waists.. big butts.. and huge boobs. They don't. They draw pictures of mom, dad, siblings, and animals.. lots and lots of animals.. just like little boys do.

it has gotten to the point in this country that "progressives" are so eager to prove their acceptance of homosexuality that they are taking any little thing and using it as a tool to decide that their kids are gay.. so they can say "I'm not like the old intolerant people.. I am accepting of my gay child'

 

In contrast, gender identity refers to a person's deepest inner sense of being female or male (or even something other than female or male) and is often established by age 2 to 3 years. For most individuals, gender identity is congruent with biological sex, although for some, it is not. Although their bodies tell them and the world around them that they are female or male, their inner identity is either of the opposite gender or a sense of gender separate from female or male. These individuals are referred to as transsexual or transgender. That is from the American Academy of Pediatrics

 

Kids at 18 months can NOT put together sentences,even a 3-word sentence like "I'm a boy" - their vocabulary is VERY limited to a few words at that age, such a 'mama, dada and no' - after that it's pretty much baby babble that you struggle to understand. I would just say "show me" and my kid would pull me over to whatever he/she was talking about. At that age, kids understand many words, but they don't know how to pronounce them, which really limits your communication w/them.

In fact, that reminds me - when my son was at that approximate age, I had a heck of a time understanding him, but his sister who was 2 yrs older, understood every word of his baby babble. I remember her standing rite beside him, interpreting every word & he'd nod his head. It was funny and found it amazing that a sibling close to their age understood the same lingo.

You're really stuck on this 'expert' kick - it's been explained and you should have the common sense to realize not all medical/mental professionals are correct in all their diagnoses. Some of them aren't worth the powder it would take to blow them to hell! And I know this is an extreme example, but have you heard of the Ft. Hood shooter? He was a 'qualified" certified psychologist and he went off the deep end....... but IMO, a good psychologist/psychiatrist is priceless - like a good chiropractor. There are good ones out there - you just have to shop around and find them. And NO thoroughly educated psychiatrist/psychologist/pediatrician in his field would come to the conclusion that a 7 yr old girl believed from her babyhood that she was meant to be a boy and the dr would agree w/her decision....for a medical person to do that is totally irresponsible and if that happens, that person needs to have their license yanked........

It's obvious that this transgender dad brain-washed his daughter, not son. He convinced her she should be his 'son' since her babyhood. The younger they are, the more effective the brainwashing will work......

And brw, 18 months old does NOT know what sex they are! They have no concept of 'boy' 'girl' 'genitals' 'sexual identity'..... they don't have the mental capacity to sort thru that stuff! At that age, their thinking process only covers their world of comfort & discomfort.......

I had no idea that you had 'been there and done that' - when did you have a child and how old is it now?

 

Lets play a game:

How do you think the color red came to symbolize danger?

 

First Words: Child Language Development at 12-18 Months

Seems very possible "Im a boy" could be spoken by an 18 month old

 

Gender Dysphoria is the actual condition. Males can want to be female... females can want to be male.. and some even have a deep seeded belief that they are of something other than either male OR female.

How is that not psychological? Did something happen in the womb that prevented the child from being made a self-impregnating martian?

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saO_RFWWVVA"]National Geographic explains the biology of homosexuality - YouTube[/ame]

 

You might want to rethink this one. You're about to shoot yourself in the foot here. If he can't provide evidence of a straight gene, then you're going to have a hard time arguing that people are born gay if there is no genetic difference between the two.

Then the only options you're going to be left with are environmental circumstances or conscious choice.

 

LOL! This is funny! Is that little doll your daughter?

Would there be some place in this land of opportunity where you could take her on a fantasy pirate's ship? What a great memory that would be for her....

You made an excellent point here........

 

Its actually a smart ass comment to those who claim that heterosexuality is a genetic because it 'prepares the body for procreation'. Procreation has nothing to do with whether someone is GBLT or straight.

 

Lets play like you have a clue what you are talking about. I have been watching page after page as you.. in post after post.. accuse others of having an anti-lgbt (or gblt.. as you call it) agenda whenever they corner YOU about YOUR agenda. This is the thing. They don't need an agenda. You are the one who is advocating for change of laws and social norms to meet YOUR agenda. All they need is a majority vote.

They have asked you time and again if you approve of what this mother has done to her daughter.. from the age her daughter was 18 months old. You have yet to adequately answer that question... so let me answer it for you.

NO.. you have no problem with it. You have an agenda. The success of that agenda takes precedence over any one individual that may be harmed in pursuit of that agenda. Isn't that right? "what about the children" is a pretty successful battle cry and can serve to further your agenda. That's all that matters. The children who are psychologically harmed along the way are just collateral damage. Isn't that right?''

And of course any baseless agenda must attach itself to a legitimate agenda to appear more legitimate.. right? So the BTQ people (yes.. there is a q now) have attached themselves like barnacles to the LG movement as if the issues and causes are the same or even similar. They aren't.

So ya.. your agenda is clear. If you think you are going to get anywhere with your "lets play a game) bs with me.. you are sadly mistaken. I spend my life counseling and working with the kids you and people like you screw up. I am qualified to do it.

Are your opinions formed based on anything real in your life.. or are you just regurgitating info from other websites?

 

Lets play a game:

How do you think the color red came to symbolize danger?