Germany’s Merkel Opposes Turkey EU Bid

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Turkey in EU?

Poll closed Oct 2, 2011.
  1. Yes

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  2. NO

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  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I agree with Merkel since the EU is currently to financially unstable and such would only harm Turkey. It is thus better to wait until the EU is in a better situation. Of course, Turkey joining the EU right now would be beneficial to the EU but maybe less beneficial to Turkey.
     
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    Turkey seems to be the only islam country that has any established government that is helping others in the region. EU would be wise to have Arab and muslim allies for the future. It is evident that the new political changes in Libya, syria, Saudi Arabia, and Palestine will create a great source of material resources, economic trade, and consumers for capitalism.

    If EU passes up the opportunity to side with Turkey, the EU will fail in the future like the USA has failed to establish positive relations with all the islam/muslim countries. We all know the muslims want peace and prosperity for their country. If the EU passes on Turkey, the other emerging countries like China, Inida, S Korea, Russia, and most of South America and Africa will open their doors for trade and buisness, as well as ally with Turkey.

    Too bad for the USA as they have failed to establish relations for the future.
    If the EU wants to be successfull in the future, they need to look into the future and prepare for what is to come in this rapid changing global economy.

    If the EU continues to act like the USA, it will fail, and will be living a failure of the past when the other countries are living successfull in the future.

    You all see where Russia is today economically? That is how they were when their economy failed, and they are living in the early 1990s.
     
  5. litwin

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    sorry , done
     
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    Turkey should enter EU.
    If romania was able to enter...
     
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    not really ,its only for European countries´ club
     
  9. The Turk

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    The Council of Europe has described what country is a European country. So the Union, offically, has no doubt about the Europeanness of Turkey.

    Please consider this fact before analysing the issue.
     
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    Absof&inglutely!!!

    Politically correct pro-Islamic Euro-liberals must put their money where their mouths are and admit Turkey into the EU. There is nothing more disgusting that the taste of one's own medicine, it would be amazingly entertaining to watch euro-morons swallow gallons of it.

    Fortunately for Europe there is a chance that true leaders and visionaries like Merkel, Cameron and Sarkozi will save the imbecile BBC brainwashed population of Europe from imminent suicide. Germany has enough Turks to know better than admit more of them.
     
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    Too much talk and no action.

    Funnily enough, It's Turkey that threatens to cut the relations.
     
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    They don't need to act, they need to talk (to their constituency) and vote, which is exactly what they are doing.

    LOL, that did not even warrant an official response, it was completely ignored. Merkel, Sarkozi and Cameron must be speechless with fear and shaking in their designer shoes :)
     
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    What? Oh boy...

    They need to talk.. Merkel has opposed the Turkish membership since when? 2005? When did Sarkozy say that "Turkey is not a European country."

    LOL.

    And Turkey has already occupied the part of the EU. And what's the official response? Ignorance? Don't make my day. The only explanation is either Turkey has an immense political power or the EU is a joke.

    What are they saying? "We need to talk..?", "We are ignoring you..?"
     
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    Why? What about? They don't want Turkey in the EU. I do..as a punishment to their blind politically correct liberals. But the European leaders don't and I can't blame them. I read your posts and in all fairness if all turks were like 'the turk' I'd be the first to say that Turkey belongs in the EU. Unfortunately most turks resemble Turk123 much more than 'the turk' and you know that better than I do :(

    Nicolas Sarkozy accused of derailing Turkey's bid to join EU

    Australia is a european country even though it's in..hmm Australia. Canada is a European country even though it's in North America. Turkey would not be a European country even if it was located in the center of Europe (instead of Belgium :) ). Sorry but geographical location is not enough, it's more about culture than geography.
     
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    Not allowing Turkey into EU is a bigger decision than anyone might wants to believe.
    Its a decision that will shape the date and the sides of the third world war.
     
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    :omg::omg:

    We are talking totally different things?

    You said "They need to talk." I was referencing you.

    Again don't personalize political issues. It's the Turkish State that is going to enter the EU, not me, not Turk123. This is why a Muslim majority non white country Turkey is a candidate and a christian white majority Ukraine is not. This is essentially about states, not about people.

    And if you are curious about my very personal stance, I tell you, I am from a wealthy Istanbulite family. My life standart is probably way higher than any working class Western European. I can travel wherever I want. So the EU means practically nothing to me. In fact if it were totally up to me, I would like Turkey to be part of the US.

    But this is not about my daydreaming, right?

    And who the hell says that Australia is a European country, LOL. You are kidding right? As I said the Council determines the technical Europeanness, please examine the member states of the Council.

    You're talking about Western culture.

    Again, culture is one thing, State systems and their technicality is another.


    *Turkey is not a candidate just because of the Thrace though, I will let you think why she is a candidate.
     
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    States consist of people who will be living in Germany, France, Switzerland... They never forget that and they already have pretty poor record with ethnic/religous minorities. The EU membership is about geography and culture and race (even if politically correct euro-trash won't ever admit to it) and this is why Ukraine will be in the EU long before Turkey (or Russia for that matter) will. And rightly so - irreconcilable cultural differences.

    That's why I admire your posts, you are way smarter and better educated than most posters. Unfortunately people with your views don't reflect modern day Turkey.
     
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    LOLOL! Turkey going to lash out like angry muslims if they dont get their way?
     
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    There is none, to very little difference between the Greeks and the Turks.
    The cultural differences, however, between the Greeks and the Finnish are enormous.

    Sorry, but fail on your part.
     
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    The EU membership is not about anything you listed. First and foremost you should learn the political system of Europe before reaching any conclusion about the issue. And please back up your claims with solid references. Ukraine's advantage of having christian and white population is one thing, saying that Ukraine would enter the EU before Turkey is another, which requires solid proofs. Don't confuse your personal opinions and predictions with facts.

    Ukraine is not even a candidate of the enlargement candidates, which means the EU will not consider Ukraine to be a candidate member in a near future. As I said this is not about people, this is about the state systems, If Ukraine accepts the European political and economical system, then we might think of the population advantages. So state systems first.

    And I don't worry about reflecting the modern day Turkey. Though I am perfectly aware of the fact that Turkey has a solid population of secularists.
     
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    By the way, I meant Cyprus.
     
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    No to yet another poor nation
    No to Jihad
    No to immigration of even more useless unintegrated turks.
    No to stealth Jihad
    No to a Islamic apartheid state in Europe.
     
  24. litwin

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    i thought it was a God or nature...?The Council of Europe is only organization (non democratic one), its can change its mind anytime
     
  25. litwin

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    BBC gets $ from the EU´s Fifth column (england) so nothing is strange here . England wants eu to be nothing more but a custom union, for sure not a state, so... thats why BBC and England so pro-turkish , Turkey in EU will automatically kill de gaulle EU´s plans
     

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