Should Fat People Be Forced To Lose Weight?

So instead of helping them cure their addiction to food, you exploit their addiction and make them pay more for their addiction? You are no better than a meth dealer that wants to keep raising the price of your meth.

I am trying to help people and you are trying to steal their money -_-

 

lol. the left isn't tolerant. ha! what a farce. they are tolerant if they agree with you.

 

ABSOLUTELY NOT. One of the first reasons I disavowed myself from liberals AND conservatives is their need to judge people for their own lifestyle choices. If you think they increase the cost of charitable government services, then why do you support those services in the first place? Otherwise, they are a privilege for the few and not remotely humanitarian. The fact is, weight in our country is overblown. People are still living longer than they ever have, the amount of people who die from heart disease will NEVER go down because of consequences from the absolutely pivotal agricultural revolution of '70's, increasing population and the fact is, there is a massive demand for fast food. Our economy has less resources and now runs off the hustle and bustle of fastly evolving industry and financial services, leading to high stress lifestyles where people need stuff on the go and CHEAP. Every country has a BIG killer, countries like China are not and have never been pictures of health compared to us, they just have different killers (lung and stomach cancers are to them what heart disease is to the US.)

Also, keep in mind that fast food in it's current form is cheap and grossly unhealthy because our government meddled and subsidizes corn and soy. The agricultural revolution, though very important, created an over-supply of food which makes it easier for people to eat in excess. In addition, a fluctuating economy leads to higher stress levels, and cortisol is one of the major catalysts for midsection fat. If you think obesity is solely based on personal overindulgence, then you are most likely somebody who has been honored with a relatively stable economic situation (keep in mind genetics, which is why skinny folks are no more healthy than overweight people overall, healthy has no real weight truthfully.) This whole obesity epidemic is just a fear campaign created by people who are highly egotistical and scared of folks with different appearances from them, with pharmaceutical companies joining in on the fun with magic pills.

 

Hello Mudda,,,Hello Fadda

Here I am at...

Camp Enchilada....

 

If you starve someone and make them lose weight, it doesn't cure anything. They still have the same 'addiction'.

In order to cure it, they have to want to change. Encourage them. Make it so they don't have a choice to lose weight if they want certain things.

 

What "addiction"?

The French are largely skinny. Are they "addicted" to skinniness?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_France

 

Yes, put them into camps with:

alcoholics;

dangerous drivers with multiple convictions;

homosexuals with AIDS;

people convicted of transmitting sexual diseases;

That should keep a lot of people busy and take a lot of them off the streets!

 

Let's not stop at fat people. What about shopaholicss and football nuts?

 

They wont be starved they will be fed properly and taught how to eat by a nutritionist, so the fear of having to go back to the camp and do manual labor will keep them from over eating.

 

Michele Obama has this plan that teaches people the same thing....How much you wanna bet it fails...? So you are right, education is hardly enough...How about we ZAP them every time they gain a pound?




We wont need to spend money on Camps....

Personally I do not see why we have to do anything, it's the variety of people on this planet that make it interesting...

 

But the French are deteriorating fast---Obesity has almost doubled (8.5 to 14.5%) between 1997 and 2009 in France


http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/france/100827/obesity-france-paris-food

 

Of course.. take them to trial and then wire their jaws shut..

Any good Marxist can solve the problem of obesity in America.. Human rights be d*mned.

 

Since fat people are a financial burden on the nation (increased health problems causing increased health costs and lost work days, reduced number of airline seats, furniture modifications, et cetera) and a security risk (loss of military potential, increased number of targets for honey traps, et cetera), it would be only fair if they were made to pay for their LARGER burden on society. Why can't health insurance firms place a surcharge on their insurance fees, or airlines charge them higher flight costs, or employers dock some of their pay to cover their additional costs in hiring them?

 

I think that as much as over weighted people are supposed to loose the weight and have healthier lifestyle, anorexia is same problem and both should be treated equally and treatment should be adapted individually from person to person (human approach)

numerical approach:

'fat' people usually make income of McDonalds,KingBurger,etc. bigger, raising their children most probably on same way (children usually follow example set by their parents) also feed themselves in McD,KB,etc. which becomes their main habit while they're growing up. On the other hand, people drinking,smoking and having sleep disorder gain lot of weight as well and as long as they keep doing that they finance tobacco companies,cafees and clubs.

and of course another category of people who became fat due to some illness and can't simply manage to lose it on their own should have more attention and encouraged to do so by offering them cheaper healthcare- and LARGER burden on society is not helping them and if it's not helping them it is not helping out society.

 

Of course not. That's fascism.

 

Does 'forcing' implies starving or causing any sort of emotional stress?

 

in the american health system as it stands now the obese are not that much of a burden because they are caught by the safety nets however when our system becomes socialized then it would be wise to force the obese to lose weight through different avenues because the responsible people will be paying for their gorging.

this would be the right thing to do because it forces them to be healthier and lowers our costs but the free market health care system as of now does not penalize them so it becomes a decision between freedom to be obese or forced to be responsible

 

I think that fat people should be eaten. One fat person would feed 10 thin people for two weeks and comes with the benefit of reducing global warming and reducing the number of fat people. It is a win win situation.

 

What a bunch of fascists liberals are.........

Please read my sig for more explanation.

 

No forcing means, making them excercise and eat healthy food.

 

Only if stupid people can be similarly rounded up and put into camps where they are forced to learn and understand how stupid some of the things they say and think are. If that happens as well, maybe I could accept the fat people thing as well.

 

To be clear, this is about making people healthier? Not just reducing the number of obese people you have to look at. If so...

People are not neccesarily healthy simply by being skinny.(However I'l be the first to admit we could use a bit more exercise all around... Bare in mind, excercise not just weight loss.)
If you really wanted to force people to be healthy you couldn't just target people who appear overweight.(Despite what their actual level of physical health is.)
Being healthy is about more than just being skinny, being underweight is as unhealthy as being overweight. Unfortunatly pound for pound comparisons are rarely, if ever, done.
Comparisons usually involve the difference between a 10 pound underweight person with a 300 pound overweight one. If someone was 100 pounds underweight compared with 100 pounds over, i'm guessing the heavier one would be in much better shape.

Forcing people into a camp for their supposed benefit is pretty bad. Especially if its only out of disgust of their appearance not concern for their well being. However I'l give the benefit of the doubt and assume you are genuinly concerned for overweight people.

 

stupid people are born stupid, you cant educate an idiot.

 

Only someone who achieved stupidity through willful idiocy would say that.

 

This is true. I've known underweight skinny smokers who don't exercise, yet they look weathered before their time. I'm petite and fit not b/c I don't eat junk, but b/c I workout and eat junk in moderation. I once heard that it's 80% excercise and 20% diet. If I didn't workout regularly, I too would be overweight b/c I'm not what you call a ''clean eater''. I do go thru my health(food) kicks tho. I wonder if OP works out?