American conservatives vs. Middle Eastern Muslims

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Women are second class citizens in the Arab world. It's institutionalized.
     
  2. loong

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    Another FACT, JACK.
     
  3. Goomba

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    Yes, unfortunately in some cases, women in Arab countries do not enjoy the same rights that their male counterparts enjoy, as is the case in most (if not all) underdeveloped countries. This isn't to say that all Arab men abuse women, of course. As the Arab region develops and modernizes, I think change will eventually occur (if not slowly). After all, it was just a few decades ago that the Civil Rights Act was passed in America.
     
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    Islamists are very devoted to the doctrine of their "Messenger of Allah", the Historically Documented MASS MURDERER, THIEF, RAPIST & PEDOPHILIC RAPIST whackjob MUHAM"MAD" .... I doubt if there'll be any change in their treatment of women for the next few millenia.

    Unless the World gets tired of their CRAP and nukes them outa business.
     
  5. kilgram

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    The truth is offensive many times, but is the truth.

    Just check the conservative opinions in these forums, and find the relation with muslim opinions, are exactly the same, just with different religion. Go to the woman's forum, and look the conservative opinions.

    Is easy to see how conservative are equal in every place of the world. The same with anarchists, communists, "heavies" or any group. Whatever from where are you that you will share the same common characteristics.
     
  6. kilgram

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    Yeah, Jews are hated by many conservative.

    Israel is a terrorist state. What people doesn't like is this terrorist government, not Israel at all.

    Democracy HAHA. But if that are the conservative the ones that fear more democracy. Just check opinions in this forum... And find the ones that talk about mob rule, and stupid things like that. Who are the ones that find many justifications for authoritarian governments?

    Wrong. Leftists or atheists don't like any religion, whatever is the religion. For example, I consider the religion an illness, that goes from severe to light. And the conservative in this illness normally are in the severe level like many muslim.

    And I've said, every group of a point of the world have the same characteristics with the same kind of group in other point of the world.
     
  7. Blasphemer

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    I never understood why as a leftist and anti-theist I am supposed to tip-toe around muslims.

    It is some form of wicked political correctness? Or is it because atheism is prevalent in western world and so views christian conservatives as its traditional enemy, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Or is it to appear different from the conservatives who dont like muslims, too?

    Anyway, all of these reasons are laughable. While I have no love for conservative christianity, islam as a whole is just as crazy, and as far as I am concerned, even an order of magnitude worse (particularly among middle eastern muslims).

    "Pseudoatheists" that criticize christians but are strangely silent or even apologetic when it comes to other faiths are beginning to seriously get on my nerves.
     
  8. Subdermal

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    I never argued against any of this, bud.
     
  9. Subdermal

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    Nice anti-religion rant. Nevermind that you act towards conservatives exactly like you condemn these religions for acting towards women.

    And you also utterly ignore that contemporary Christian societies do not act towards women as contemporary Muslim societies do.
     
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    WHAT the HELL???...
     
  11. Subdermal

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    I don't have to go anywhere. I am conservative, and the crap to which I responded was just that: crap.

    Enjoy your delusion.
     
  12. Gator Monroe

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    American Conservatives Defeated Hunger, Disease, Nazism, Communism, Fascism, then celebrated by Playing Golf & Driving Dune Buggys on the Moon.
     
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    I don't get it. Fundamentalists fighting fundamentalists. They all agree with each other on so much more than the rest of us do, and yet they haggle literally to death over the fine points. It's like people who get really passionate about their local high school football team, only the death toll is much higher and more deliberate. I just don't understand it.

    Why is a person willing to kill someone over something that someone else thinks? How does that even happen in the human brain? One side believes that Gabriel is on the left and Michael is on the right ... the other side believes that Michael is on the left and Gabriel is on the right ... this is a fascinating point of contention but it's not something that anybody needs to be killed over. Nobody should really even be slapped for it. Just making a cutting joke over it is pretty difficult.

    I don't think it's a conservative or liberal thing. It's a fundamentalist thing. Crazy people need to chillax. Stop getting into blood feuds over mirror images.
     
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    I'm a little torn. On the one hand, I want to point out that liberals did all of those things, too ... but then, on the other hand, I find myself thinking that if I let you go on thinking what you're thinking that you'll still be in favor of defeating hunger, disease, nazis, communism and fascism, and of continuing the space program.

    (Golf is an easy one, though. You can have golf all day long. I wish no part in golf. That is the silliest sport I've ever seen, and I like pro-wrestling.)
     
  15. kilgram

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    Yeah, then as conservative check your beliefs and you will see that you're similar to any conservative of any part of the world. Really similar, and same behaviour.


    No delusion. How much you travel more you will discover that what I've said is the reality.

    For introducing a not political example. I like metal music, so I move in this environment. I am originally from Spain. But living in other country, I've seen other people moving in the metal environment, I've seen behaviours that are a copy, exact copy, same movements than other "heavies" of Spain. The same behaviour in the heavies group, whatever their procedency.

    The same with ideology. I will not have anything in common with you, but with an American anarchist I will be very similar. The same you with a Spanish conservative, you will be really similar.

    So a Muslim conservative will be really similar to a Christian conservative. Giving a real example, a Morocco's conservative party compared themselves to the Spanish Conservative party, and yes, they share most of their ideas.
     
  16. kilgram

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    Because today Christians can't do the same. Society would be strongly against them. But most of Christians would have envy how Muslim acts in many of these situations.
     
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    Inanity. We're talking about the societies.
     
  18. Gator Monroe

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    There were SOOOO Many Liberals at NASA and in the Military & running Machine Shops & in Science in the late 1950's thru 1960's
     

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