Naaww, cute. Sorry, still strangely enough seems that your hilarious cries of "already shown yooou!" don't magically give you an argument if you haven't actually once presented those quotes or posts. Pro-tip: Complaining from the first post asking you to provide a quote to back up your claims that you've already shown them teeeends not to work. Since, you know, you're required to present those quotes at least once before you claim you've shown them, let alone that those non-existent quotes back you up. So again... Provide the quote, or at the very least the post number, that you say backs your claim up. Burden of proof is on you. Demanding everyone else find a quote that doesn't exist is going to be a liiiittle bit hard to do. Try again?
You think they'll go along with that idea? Not a chance. Their intellectual bankruptcy really shines through brightly when you make them argue this topic. They know how weak they are defending Islam, which is why they try so desperately to change the subject.
Grokmaster already pointed out those posts. See the previous page. This is the second time I've referred you to his post. Sorry, this little dance and game you are playing is so laughably retarded. Although it's really cute how you came to bat for your friend, after he left the thread in defeat, you are still fighting a losing battle, and it shows with every weak attempt you make. I've already explained how both you your efforts in this thread have been made to defend Islam. Other people have also explained this to you. It's simply not our fault that you don't have the capacity to understand. I blame the school system, myself, (but stay in school, of course).
Oh good, at least now you're making specific claims. Allow me to refute your claim. Previous page: Page 13 Only post by Grok is where he quoted WatcherOfTheGate. Ok, ok, looks like you've got m- Oh wait, it appears that post quotes where he had previously stated for someone to quote his non-existent posts in this thread which defended Islam. Grok makes no mention of any posts where he defends Islam. Nor quotes them. Nor gives a post number. Nor states specifically what was said that defended Islam. Oh dear, it would seem you've once again been caught out in your flat out lie. Try again, kiddo? Naaaww, sooo cute. Still sorry but strangely enough no matter how many times you cry and deflect and continue to flat out refuse to provide any evidence for your claim (something that should be the most easiest thing to do, since you claim to already know what those posts say), it won't magically give your lack of argument anything to back itself up with. You see, as ive already pointed out, you need to provide evidence to back up your claim. So far you haven't. And seeing as those posts don't exist, and we didn't claim they existed first, it would appear burden of proof still lies squarely on yourself. Irony being that despite the hilarity crying about schools and education, the desperate attempts of a person unable to meet an inteligent discussion head on, you yourself keep failing to do that very simple thing; which is present the quote. Try again? Hahahaha.
Bump. The left has a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" attitude when it comes to Muslims. Certainly, the elements that the left hates about Christianity are multiplied in Islam, yet they defend them because they know it agitates conservatives. That, and Islam is still a minority religion practiced by minorities. These leftists can stand up in their liberal arts classes and denigrate Christianity without any fear of reprisal, yet if they were to do the same thing about Islam, they would fall from grace in the eyes of their fellow leftists.
the passages are abundant. More importantly I've provided well known Islamic scholars who teach this and that is the key.
I don't care what a bible scholar says. I care what the Bible says. Do you take the word of a scholar over the actual bible? Is that the argument you are trying to make?
The argument was quite clear. You can point to violent passages as often as you want. The key is how that religion is taught and what its scholars teach its believers that results in the society we live in today. That is why the moral equivalence so many liberals like to pretend exist between Christians and Muslims doesn't translate into reality when you look at actual violence committed in the name of that religion. Can you be a moderate Muslim? Of course but you have to ignore vital parts of the Qur'an and most importantly you have to be taught to ignore them and that is not done or you would not see the amount of violence committed by Muslims against non believers in societies around the world. It crosses everything from race to economic background. The one constant is Islam.
So you don't believe in what the Bible says? You asked me to provide you with the Bible passage. I did that. Let's make this easy. Do you believe the Bible is the word of God?
Why are you judging this when you know nothing about what happened that morning? There is NO evidence this was an honor killing. The media might say the father was upset with his daughter dating, but that is NOT proof that it was an honor killing! Why kill SRVEN people if he was only angry with his daughter? This does NOT fit the profile of your typical honor killing. Pretty much in line with the rest of the world. Fancy that! Who cares? Facts are facts. This whole thread is based on what someone heard on the news. Hey, lets not forget those bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy Christians who bomb abortion clinics! Would you be as outraged if the father was a Christian? Of course not. You'd be leaping up and down demanding the thread be deleted because there is no proof the father was a Christian. Yet when its a Muslim...the rules change. Funny, that. Again, if it was a Christian, you wouldn't be posting in this thread. But any excuse to attack Muslims, right? One bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy dude kills his family and that means all Muslims are evil. She was religious but didn't use religion as a reason for kiling her kids. She was just nuts. Of course not, but the conservatives here are physic. They KNOW he cited religion, they have secret super powers.
Don't we all remember how the Islamophobes immediately assumed the Oslo shooter was a Muslim? Don't we all remember them jumping up and down claiming it was Muslim terrorism because no one else could POSSIBLY have done such a thing? Do we remember hearing crickets when it was revealed the shooter was a WHITE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE? Do we remember people refusing to apologise for jumping to ill informed conclusions? I sure do. Half the people commenting on this thread are doing nothing more than attacking Muslims. Most of those people are so called Christians. Here's a quote from your own BIBLE, Christians: Well. I see a heck of a lot of judgement going on in this thread. Oh well. Prepare to be judged by your God. I'm sure he's impressed.
Mak, I believe Andrea Yates was the woman who said God told her to kill her children. I'm almost positive.
Hmm, not sure about that. I recall a woman who murdered her son because the devil told her to do it. Unsure about Yates though. I'll check to see what her reasons were.
What matters is this dude killed people and part of it was based upon HIS culture, religion is merely a secondary factor here, the devaluation of human life is what we should be looking at, but that's lost to liberals, they only value who will support them when they need it...
What are you talking about? The utter and complete disregard for the concept of assimilation is culture based, this pathetic loser killed people because he wouldn't adjust to US culture. It wasn't America that made him that way, it was what he KNEW from his home....
We don't even know the full story as to what happened that morning. So far we have nothing more than wild guesses. Are you guys able to calm down, sit back, and wait for the actual facts to come out?
arab muslims are assimilating just fine, many americans who identify as christian kill their familes when their finances go awry like in the OP
Exactly. I am amused to no end how quickly they shoved feminists and homosexuals to the side in their rush to apologize for Islam's brutal oppression of women and homosexuals. What this really says about progressives is that they don't really care about ANY of their identity politics groups. They are merely useful idiots to be used. What is important is the political war with capitalism and Christianity- the natural enemies of secular humanist Marxists. _
So is there any evidence the shooting had anything to do with Islam? Jerry Sandusky was a Christian and registered republican. Was screwing little boys motivated by his religion? Just wondering....