The "purposefully obtuse" trick isn't playing too well here. We know about honor killings in the Islamic community around the world including the West, and the martial status of the couple. That is a red flag for an honor killing. Will we be able to question everyone? No, they are all dead, Celica. _
The only thing the "left" hates is bigotry, ignorance and racism. This is the reason you "think" the left hates you. Because right wingers love to bash people who are not Christians. I personally, as well as most liberals, do not give a crap about your, and anyone else's beliefs. This is just like your "liburalz heit Sara Pahlin becuz she is a beautifool conzervative wooman" argument. We dislike her because she is a opportunistic moron whose biggest achievements in her life was a half-assed reality show but she thinks she is qualified to lecture us on all serious issues she had no understanding of.
You just said you have no evidence but this doesn't stop you from spreading baseless bullsht. They can go around asking the relatives and family. Oh by the way, at the end of an honor killing, you don't kill yourself. This is obviously a classic sad case of a financially distraught father deciding to end it all. Unfortunately happens quite often in our country. But by all means, go ahead and keep spreading your BS, never miss a chance to bash moooooozlimz.
There is a strong possibility of an honor killing because we have a Muslim father killing his family on the verge of a divorce, just as we saw the Muslim TV executive behead his wife in a similar situation. Then, there is the example of the cabbie shooting his two daughters to death. Then, there are the Canadian honor killings, the UK honor killings, ect., ect. _
So, just so we're clear (trying to decipher your teenage-level posts requires some effort), you admit that you are in this thread about Islam and are attempting to establish a moral equivalency tu quoque argument for Christianity. Do you really not see how this is a defense of Islam? Considering that you just admitted to doing exactly what I accused you of, providing a post number seems rather pointless, now.
The word "Islam" doesn't have to be in that post in order for it to be a defense of Islam. I think both of you suffer from the same inability to understand this argument. Have you taken some time and reflected upon what I asked you yesterday? What is your motivation for participating in this thread? Really dig deep and explore.
Any reason you can't stay on topic? (Rhetorical question, of course. The answer is the point I've been trying to make you see from the beginning.)
I never said that. I didn't just ask you for the Bible Passasge did I? The literal word of God no. The Bible is a collection of stories designed to teach direction in how to live your life. The New Testament itself of Jesus' life is based on an Aramaic poetic format finally written down to be shared with others decades after Jesus' death. That doesn't mean there are not guidelines and rules to follow from those stories but very very very few Christians believe God wrote the Bible to be taken literally word for word. This is where is vastly differs with Islam which is taught as the literal word of God and provides not only a religious but social and economic structure to all its believers.
I've always believed that political correctness and racial issues trump every other liberal hot topic, including homosexuality and feminism. That is why feminist groups ignore the status of Islamic women, why liberals ignore the treatment of homosexuals in the Islamic world. Even PETA refuses to comment on the ritual slaughter of animals for halal.
Nope. Then by all means provide those quotes. How little you understand the Bible. Yes Jesus did speak of judging others based on personal opinions to be wrong but He never said judging others is wrong entirely. This is where most of the hate on the far left like yourself comes from. You can't stand the idea that religion sets up rules and boundaries to be followed from being a good person to recognizing sin when you see it.
I disagree. The father committed suicide after, which normally does not happen in an honor killing. These type of incidents, father kills family and self because of financial/ martial & family issues is not uncommon in our society. I could pull a dozen easy from different religious backgrounds in the USA. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/20/FOURDEAD.TMP http://www.imperfectparent.com/topics/2011/05/23/father-kills-self-and-family-in-pittsburgh-suburb/ http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/19/national/main20122642.shtml http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94936&page=1
To continue the conversation on this thread you will have to drop the flamebait, insults and personal attacks. It is up to you. Banning from the thread can be arranged.
I perused that site. Then I took a shower to wash the filth that site contains off of me. It is an anti Iranian site, that contains such gems as this. Edit of the profanity is mine. It is a known fact that our country Iran has a large surplus of retards. Unlike real retards, these people do not suffer from impairment of cognitive functions. In fact, these cousin-******* rosewater splashing, Sandis drinking, hygienic challenged individuals seem to get around effortlessly. The problem with these retards is not medical its ethical. These retards suffer from impairment of humility for a small amount of cash and a chance to leave the village>>> I don't think it was meant as praise. I think it was intended as bigoted irony. I think that bigoted website was using this tragedy to further their bigotry. Familicide occurs in all cultures. It also seems to be complemented by financial distress or divorce. I am not sure why his alleged religion or ethnic background would be considered a factor. http://articles.sfgate.com/2007-06-20/news/17250533_1_mass-murder-phillip-resnick-suicide
Whoops! Oh wait... It would strangely seem that your deliberate, repeated attempt to ignore what ive stated still magically isn't working. Hahah, who would have thought. Let me repeat the answer to your ridiculous strawman, seeing as you mysteriously missed it in the quote directly above said strawman. Since so far ive provided modern day crimes by those who are Christians. And then directed them at displaying the failure of your fallacious, hypocritic logic when confronted with the fact that according to your failed logic those same Christians represent Christianity as much as this man did for Islam. To which you've simply proved my point. Again and again and again by repeatedly refusing to accept that your hilarious logic also applies for Christianity. And any other religion. But well done at once again refusing to provide any quotes to back up your previous claim. XD Try again? Naaaw, sowweeee. Seems that you've still failed to produce anything to back up your previous claim/s. Even now failing to back up this new claim directed solely at me in the face of being repeatedly refuted regarding your fallacious claims. Try again? Hmm?
It's being reported today that the scumbag actually placed a gun in another adult male's hand before he used the second gun to kill himself. Guess it was a last-ditch effort to place the blame on somebody else. Whatta coward. Regardless what his religion, may he burn in hell.
SMW, You regularly claim people like myself "defend the murdering father". There is NOWHERE I or ANYONE has "defended the murdering father", and while I ask for proof from quotes, I know you will not do so. I am defending the 6 MILLION Muslims here in the USA who have NOT murdered their children or wives or sisters, people whom YOU condemn.
You of all people claiming I am a "drama queen". There is nowhere I said it should not be discussed because he is a Muslim. I have said ALL Muslims should not blamed for the nutcase acts of a few psychos. Like these?
How odd! First, let's see, somehow, killing your SON, along with your wife and sisters in law and others, is part of "Islamic honor killing"! NOW our Islamophobe Islam "experts" claim "suicide of the father" is required part of "Islamic honor killing" too?
Still defecting I see. Did you come up with that post of me defending Islam yet? You haven't posted any proof of your claim. I'm guessing you wont and will again deflect.
Nice selective quoting. I guess you didn't feel it necessary to quote this part I wonder why? Also, the repeated question I raised: "what are you doing in this thread?" has gone unanswered. Another shocker!