Obama firing more troops, throwing them off the cliff

this country is not threatened by iran or north korean troops on its shores pilaging houses why does he need to pay for more troops when that money could be used for healthcare for americans?

 

Troop reductions happen with the end of every war.......stupid post

 

Oh HE'S not planning on war...........................HE'S..............not planning...............on war occurring.

How reassuring.

 

The 'cut spending,' war monger Republicans are showing their true colors again. Color me shocked.

 

Where does it say that we are abolishing the military?

Where exactly in the Constitution are we required to have a large interventionist military?

 

Good news. America needs to get out of the middle east and invest in its middle class.

 

The reason it was stressed is because we got involved in 2 LONG wars.
War in Afghanistan going on for 10 yrs, War in Iraq lasted 8 years.

 

Iran is a small country compare to America. I assure you, even America cut half of the military, America still can beat Iran easily.

 

So now you don't want Obama to listen to the Joint Chiefs?

 

It has nothing to do with auto bailouts either. In case you didn't know, they didn't have cars back then.

Tell me why Hamilton was wrong in his assessment of the general welfare clause. If he is not then social security, medicare, welfare, etc, etc are just as constitutional as the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing military.

 

Also, a few other points after going through this thread:
-The military is not being disbanded!
-The military will not stop growing. In fact as stated by the President, it will continue grow, just at a slower pace. This most likely means they will (as others have mentioned) increase barriers into the military.
-We are still going to be outspending the next 10 countries combined.

There's nothing to get up in arms about. Now, hopefully other cuts can be made in other areas and revenue generated in other areas in the government.

 

The Osprey has at least been deployed in combat.

We've had the F-22 fielded for nearly a decade with 3 different wars on and it has yet to have a single combat sortie.

If any piece of equipment was a waste its that.

 

Stop wasting our time.

 

When it assigns the Federal Government with our national security and defense and that is what it takes and when have we intervened when it was not prompted by an attack on us our our allies and interest of peace and stability for the region and the rest of the world?

If we don't do it who will?

 

We're not getting out of the mid east, we are staying there even under this bill.

"Despite the end of the Iraq war, administration officials said they would keep a large presence in the Middle East, where tensions with Iran are worsening."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ary-approach/2012/01/05/gIQAFWcmcP_print.html

 

It is insane that they are incapable of cutting anything else. Not sure what Panetta was referring to, I assume a specific theater and not our overall troop level. With the wars winding down we don't need the numbers we currently have.

You can say that about any government agency. The purpose of the military is not to employ people.

Which is why I would prefer some kind of a compromise. We'll agree to a reduction in troops if you agree to de-funding the National Endowment for the Arts and not create any new bureaucracies for four years.

 

oh wow Obama, you just lost the military vote as a whole. thats it you dumb ass, tell 500,000 troops to (*)(*)(*)(*) off after they have been involved in 2 wars and volunteered their life to serve this country.

yep, thanks for making it easier to be totally anti-obama. the first people you should be firing you gigantic (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) would be the 40 friggin assistance your wife has us paying for.

what a friggin (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag, first he brings them home and then he fires them? yeah (*)(*)(*)(*) obama and screw you demoRATS who support just slashing away our troops like they are nothing.

oh wait i get it, Obama is trying to create a half million voters by doing his best to make them poor like the rest of the swine that votes for him.

 

we could literally kick all the ass to be possibly kicked in iran with about 10 drones dude...

we don't need three quarters of a million men to take down a third world government and their raggedy ass army.

 

I cannot believe people think Obama is reducing military personnel by 500,000:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/06/us/obama-at-pentagon-to-outline-cuts-and-strategic-shifts.html

http://www.marketwatch.com/video/as...ACFC666#!B2F3434E-FE8B-481D-B276-B36BCACFC666

Geddon, I agree with Defengar, cool your jets and read the article in the OP.

It should also be known that these troop reductions will be from Iraq and Afghanistan, not from anywhere else.

http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=4953

 

cool your jets and actually read the article zippy.

 

ok yeah i jumped the gun a lil on that one hehehe .

ok now that i know the facts , still not down with cutting down on our military, other funds can be saved from other truly wasted ventures first before we even think about cutting down on military in any way.

 

I am fine with making cuts to other things, but the military has to get cuts as well. Were pulling out of two wars. there is no need to keep dual war spending going.

The romans got the military system down pat. A fairly large well trained and equipped core force (the legionaries) was kept active and stationed throughout the empire. And a MASSIVE amount of axillary and reserve forces that would only be called upon during active campaigns. Not to mention their military system also solved the citizenship problem (if you joined up you got partial citizenship, after serving a full term you got full citizenship, and if you served several more or became an officer your immediate family would also be granted partial/full citizenship). This system kept the empire safe and on top for 700 years (one of the reasons Rome fell was because one of the last emperors did away with the "citizenship through military service" thing and just started granting citizenship to anyone who wanted it, thus severely decreasing the amount of recruits)

If we modeled our own military off of the roman form i think it would solve a lot of problems.

 

hmm that is a good thought, ima sleep on that and will continue this discussion tomorrow.

 

He never listens to them. He always wanted less troops.

 

No (*)(*)(*)(*) they didn't have cars back then.

This is why there was an amendment process put into place to make changes to the document.

If the country wanted SS, than an amendment should have been made.
If the country wanted Medicare, than an amendment should have been made.
If the country wanted auto bailouts, than an amendment should have been made.