Can GOP Save America from Classified Joe and the Dem's Debt Ceiling Catastrophe?

Joe Biden's debt ceiling catastrophe

While Classified Joe's 'classified documents fiasco is getting tons of attention. Another thing that’s getting tons of attention is the debt ceiling limit. That won’t disappear anytime soon. Actually, the debt ceiling won’t disappear as a topic until Biden negotiates a deal with Kevin McCarthy. That deal must include spending cuts in future budget cycles. That’s the only way this works.'

Speaker McCarthy will not sign a blank check for the Red Ink Orgy Dems

Classified Joe 'promised normalcy. This spending isn’t normal, and the American people know it. If Mr. Biden can’t find the words to talk about it, voters may start looking for someone who will.” The spending rivers included a bipartisan Covid-relief bill of $2.2 trillion; the American Rescue Plan’s $1.9 trillion, and then a bipartisan infrastructure bill of $1 trillion. Mr. Biden’s 2023 budget proposal was for $5.7 trillion. In December he signed a $1.7 trillion spending bill. This isn’t normal by any stretch of the imagination. This is historic spending without a legitimate reason.'

Good Lord! And then they didn't bother to raise the debt ceiling while they controlled both Houses of Congress to cover expected spending? Well, whatever is in excess of the agreed on Debt Ceiling is money that they only conditionally planned on really spending.

Unless Classified Joe manages to start WWIII he will not be more than a footnote in history, so there is no good reason to allow him to blackmail the nation into agreeing to destroy Social Security and the Credit worthiness of the United States just so that Biden and the Red Ink Orgy Dems can keep 'shoveling more of your tax dollars into the federal furnace. The question at the center of this is, How indeed do we "control" spending?'

And that indeed is the question. HOW DO WE CONTROL SPENDING?

'Why won't Democrats stop spending like drunken sailors?'

We'll raise the debt ceiling with 'responsible spending cuts.'

And for those who claim that the Red Ink Orgiests of DC cannot cut just a penny out of every planned spending dollar above the debt ceiling, have a look at the annual GAO report on duplicative programs.

 

I have no idea how we can control spending. Most of the money is dedicated to non discretionary items like Medicare and Social Security. Most of the rest is for the military and debt interest payments. Neither party will compromise or back down.

The result will be a collapse in the value of the dollar which will take the issue out of the hands of both parties. The Democrat leaders don’t care because they see themselves as “citizens of the world.” They think the U.S. can go down the tubes, and they will be okay.

Most Republicans are “Democrat light.” They are living well off the system and see no reason to challenge it. They are going to prove that when they re-elect the current, incompetent Republican Party chairperson who had failed miserably in the last two election cycles. When the Republicans call me for another contribution, they will get an earful and no money if they elect that incompetent woman as chairperson again. Why fund failure and stupidity?

 

There is even greater reason to be pessimistic about reducing spending, given rabid militarism and worship of the security state is now a bipartisan issue.

Interest on the debt is an area you could cut spending, if your parties could find a way to compromise and do it via both spending cuts and tax increases. I don't see much chance of that.

The real issue comes if countries start questioning dollarizarion and the safety of US bonds, then you'll be in a real pickle.

 

Abolish the debt ceiling and control spending with legislation. Don't negotiate with republicans when they hold America's credit hostage.

 

If you want to get spending under control, the answer is the Constitution.

Most of the Federal budget is unconstitutional - if only our elected officials obeyed it.

So the problem isn't that spending is out if control - that is merely a symptom of the problem. The real problem is that our elected officials don't adhere to the Constitution.

And still more to the core of the problem is the citizens don't understand the Constitution, or care what it says.

So, in the end, the problem is the citizens themselves.

So to answer the OP, the answer is no, the GOP will not save America. Even conservative Republicans routinely vote for all manner of unconstitutional spending.

 

I don’t see tax increases as much of a solution. If the representatives in Washington see a surplus, they will see that as a spending opportunity, not as a chance to retire some of the debt.

Art Laffer was right. Lowering taxes creates more revenues because of the increased economic opportunities. Oddly enough Keynes said the same thing via his multiplier effect.

 

That’s rich given the fact that your party was pushing the $4 trillion “Build Back Better” nonsense. When are the Democrats going to cut spending? Never. Progressivism is the beginning of the problem, not the solution.

 

Lol…progressive philosophy is why you’re no longer living in the Stone Age.
Regressives are the problem.

 

All evidence to the contrary, see post #5.

 

Good to know. Before Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, the first presidents who got the progressive label, people were living in caves, wearing skins and chopping down trees with stone axes. I’ll have to add that notation to the historical the journals I keep on my collectibles.

 

Obviously I disagree, but even if I did agree it's a low blow to try to avoid paying our bills and putting our credit in jeopardy. Democrats shouldn't give in to tactics like that or else republicans will keep doing it and we'll have a debt ceiling crisis repeatedly and it will threaten our nation's credit and economy.

 

It doesn’t matter. If the Republicans are stupid enough to shut down the government over this, they always pay a political price. The time to fix the problem was when they were voting on the appropriation bills. A bunch of stupid Republicans voted for the $1.7 trillion budget.

Worm spined Joe Mansion voted for bloated Climate Change bill thinking he would get a bill he wanted in return. He got nothing. Now he’s making noises about changes in political affiliation. Forget it Joe. You are toast. Let that be a lesson. You can never trust a Democrat politician, and many Republicans aren’t much better.

 

Lol...it's all relative, isn't it? Teddy was a jingoist warmonger.

 

Teddy liked war a bit too much as did Woodrow Wilson who got us into World War I after he promised that he wouldn't when he ran as a peace candidate in 1916. Here is a 1916 campaign button.



Both of these presidents were known as "progressives."

Teddy Roosevelt learned about the consequences of war after his son was killed in World War I. After his son died, "Roosevelt didn't act like a big kid anymore." The grief along with a poorly planned safari to the Amazon, during which he almost died, shortened his life.

The American isolationist movement issued this button just prior to World War II.

 

While I understand that for some folks, every topic is about Trump, this topic is not about Trump. If you wish to discuss Trump please find an appropriate topic and address your comments to me there.

 

Republicans say they are gonna create a debt catastrophe, then try to blame on Biden, so pathetic and Sad!

Trump raised the Debt more in 4 years then any other President has in 4 years ever

 

if a thread is about classified documents, then yes, the comparison is valid

who do you compare a President to...previous Presidents

 

I realize that for some who cannot think of anything else, that every topic is about Trump. This topic is not about Trump. If you wish to discuss Trump with me, address your comments on the proper topic.

 

The topic is the Debt Ceiling.

 

read the title

classified docs were brought up, in the title and the op

 

No, you don't realize that tRaitor tRump IS the leader of the GOP, ask McCarthy or Graham. You can't ask a question about the GOP and expect tRaitor tRump to be excluded.

 

Your absolutist myopia is precious. The topic bait is classified materials and trump is up to his neck in it. Deal with it.

 

Getting us so far into debt that our money becomes worthless is just another part of the Democrat plan to destroy the USA along with destroying our education system, causing chaos in the streets with Antifa and BLM, using up all our war weapon stocks in Ukraine, making us dependent on foreign sources for drugs and semiconductors, wrecking our domestic oil industry, using up our strategic oil reserves, weakening our military with wokeness, killing our youth with fentanyl, opening our borders wide, letting criminals go free, destroying the force of the Bill of Rights, and so much more.

Increasing the debt is just one component of the Democrat Grand Plan to destroy America,

 

NOPE! The FACTS don't support that nonsense!

 

While the one Reagan Stat was misleading .... it is true that Reagan was the Queen Bee - Princess with a Credit Card .. both a Fiscal and Economic disaster.