New California policy opens door to illegal immigrant voting

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  1. zbr6

    zbr6 Banned

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    Well its pretty obvious what this is inching towards: illegals voting and being counted as voters in federal elections.

    All illegals can get drivers licences in California and now those licences lead to automatic voter registration.

    The talk about how "safeguards" are in place to rpevent the illegals from being automatically enrolled.

    But here's the thing.

    California does nothing more than asking a person who's applying for a drivers licence if they're illegal.

    There are no hard citizenship checks in that process outside of a checkbox that you can leave empty and still be processed.

    Now lets consider something here.

    Liberals have these illegals on a mental plantation, that's obvious.

    And a big part of keeping them there is keeping them scared.

    Illegals in liberal areas think the big bad racist White border patrol is waiting around every corner.

    Why would any of these people voluntarily admit that they are illegal when they have no good reason to?

    Yea.

    Illegal voting, its already happening and California is making it easier and easier every year.

    I think at some point in the future we'll have to seriously consider invalidating all votes from California in federal elections and reject any delegate they send to Congress.

    Sorry, Americans vote in American elections and if these traitors don't want to ensure that then they'll surrender their right to participate.
     
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    You are so far into the weeds you'll never find your way home.

    In CA, it's not the DMV who verifies citizenship for those who attest that they are citizens.
     
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    I think you missed the point.
     
  4. Natural Citizen

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    From the piece...

    The only way drivers who say they are legal won’t have their information sent to state voter rolls under the latest implementation of the California Motor Voter Act is if they opt out -- which opens the door to the potential of widespread voter fraud, according to critics of the plan.

    Think they'll be opting out? lol.
     
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  5. WillReadmore

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    The point is that Fox fooled zb6.

    And, that's hardly thread worthy.
     
  6. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Oh, and Fox got you, too?
     
  7. Natural Citizen

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    That was the link in the op.
     
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    It remains against the law for an illegal alien to vote, should they fail to opt out when they are automatically registered.

    However, what hasn't been mentioned is the fact, the Progressives already covered illegals who vote by mistake via AB-1461, signed by Moonbeam on 10/10/15

    https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1461

    Excerpt:

    The bill would also provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of this program, and that person votes or attempts to vote in an election held after the effective date of the person’s registration, that person shall be presumed to have acted with official authorization and is not guilty of fraudulently voting or attempting to vote, unless that person willfully votes or attempts to vote knowing that he or she is not entitled to vote.
    So, Illegal aliens will be automatically registered to vote when they renew, or apply for the CDL's, if they don't opt out.

    If they forget to opt out, and they vote, the California Legislature has removed any liability for doing so.

    So, who is the fool here?
     
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    So now obama's instructions are a policy.
     
  10. zbr6

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    Damn I just got done schooling you on statistics in another thread and now I get to school you on reading comprehension in this one.

    The DMV doesn't verify citizenship, yes.

    That is the, uh, point.

    They don't verify citizenship, they just give out drivers licenses to people who apply for them as well as automatically enrolling those same people to vote.

    The only "safeguard" agianst an illegal being enrolled to vote here is a simple checkbox on a form, "are you a citizen yes/no", that has the ability to be processed whether it has been marked or not.

    And the response, or lack of response, to that question is not verified by the DMV ...or ANYONE ELSE!

    An illegal can mark "yes" to the citizenship question and be enrolled to vote.

    An illegal can skip the question entirely and be enrolled to vote.

    Nobody is checking this, that's the whole point.

    Now add this to alllllllllll of the other sneaky little ways that California has chipped away the voting system and what you have is a crystal clear pattern with a crystal clear goal: Getting illegals to vote freely and getting those illegals counted as voters.
     
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    Those who want to be registered to vote as part of their DMV application for driver's license must provide proof of age.

    The major methods for that include birth certificate or passport - which also identify citizenship, obviously. Also, this information then gets passed to the the Sec. State, as they own the registration database and can make further determination as they see fit.

    There have been some very recently decided court cases on this stuff. It might be a good idea to let that shake out.

    Let's remember that "automatic" is a loaded political term. ALL registration is "automatic" if you decide to discount looking at documents.
     
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    Are you claiming they have not voted as of yet?
     
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    Whenever ICE arrests illegals and has one of these newer licenses they should look to see if he voted or not, if he did, slap some additional jail time on him before shipping his culo back to Mexico.
     
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    Solution would be for the Fed's to disallow any votes being used in a Presidential elections and to strip CA of all Congresscritters and Senators until they can prove that their elections are legal.
     
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    Nonsense. You aren't listening.

    btw: Allllll what ways?
     
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    I'm fine with that.
     
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    The collective is determined to allow illegal aliens (people who come and go, at will, unchecked and unregulated) the right to vote. I guess every country in the world will have a say in US politics.
     
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    If illegals are found to be voting in a Presidential election it could mean that California’s electoral votes would not count. Not that California matters anymore after this past election...
     
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    Lol yah u think you don't have to bring any proof to the DMV? Every 16yo would be 21 if that was true. You need to bring something like a birth certificate lol
     
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    So you need a birth certificate to get a license which registers you to vote but no ID to actually vote because that’s racist?
     
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    You mean the ID you think people can get with no documentation? lol that's the proof you want people to show?
     
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    So the same proof shouldn’t be valid for a drivers license?
     
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    Sheesh....It would seem you don't know how the process works to apply for a CDL. Perhaps you should research and educate yourself instead of listening to Faux Noise.

    https://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php

    DL for people who can't verify their identity will be mark as such, and go through a different application process. So the question is....does an ab-60 application have this voter check box on it. You don't know yet you jump at this conclusion that it it does.
     
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    What same proof? I don't think you understood what I posted.
     

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