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Originally Posted by <IF> Marius
No, actually they do not. You may want to use them synonymously for political or ideological reasons, but this is a scientific debate regardless of which political or ideological side wants to twist it to suite their views.
Global Warming is not what is occurring. The world isn't globally warming, we would not be seeing lowering temperatures in areas if this were true. Nor would we see temperature shifts in areas previous designated as warming or cooling.
It is called Climate Change. Global Warming is the hypothesis presented in last few decades before the current shift to Climate Change hypothesis occurred.
I'm sorry, but it is not scientific to attribute new transitions to a previous hypothesis if those transitions contradict it.
Its "Global Warming, except for those areas around the globe it is cooling" is a pointless political framing attempt. Not science.
In fact, Global Cooling itself can just as easily be inserted with your faulty logic.
Climate change can result in cooler surface temperatures, not global warming.
Again, you are just inserting 'Global Warming' for any change that occurs. Even if that change contradicts the term "Global Warming".
Global climate fluctuates and changes, various changes in various areas of that climate will effect and change others.
Which is why it is called Global Climate Change.
Yes, you are correct, it has been used roughly for 20 years. Then for a short time, as we began to see fluctuation temperatures where warming should have occurred by the previous model, it instead began being called Global Cooling.
It took a short time after that to refer to it as Global Climate Change, as knowledge of how our worlds weather and climate occur ed became apparent.
The problem then occurred, as you yourself have quite clearly shown, ideologically where media and supporters/dissenters viewed it. For decades the "Global Warming" movement was called just that, the sudden shift away from a scientifically lacking hypothesis to the more refined Climate Change caused problems. As you show.
You want to support Global Warming? Go for it. But if you want to describe the hypothesis of Climate Change as "Global Warming", then keep it out of the scientific debate. Which this is. Warming is occurring in some areas, not globally, cooling areas are also occurring, as it reflects the interacting climate of this world, to call the entire hypothesised occurrence a single fluctuations that isn't controlling the entirety of the occurrence because you have lost/gained support is political framing.
Political framing has no place in scientific debate.
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Errrr...whatever. Excuse me for not providing a detailed response - but that is pretty much a load of bollocks.
Some clown elsewhere tried to pretend that "global warming" has suddenly changed to "climate change". That is nonsense.
"Climate change" is the correct term.
"Global warming" is the term used often in the media. It is not a technical term - but it is not necessarily wrong.
Anthropogenic emissions are causing the globe to warm - hence "global warming". This planetary warming impacts upon climate. Climate is driven by a lot of things - eg. ocean currents, albedo effects, winds etc. That is "global warming" may cause some places to actually get cooler.
Call it "Bruce" if you like - I really couldn't give a toss. Just try to learn a little bit about things before you go spouting crap.