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Originally Posted by myopicmouse";p="
so surely a sperm and egg that are just about to fuse just haven't developed into a body yet?
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A sperm and an egg are just a sperm and an egg...just specialized cells.....they have the potential to create life, but if they haven't joined, potential is all they represent..
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Originally Posted by myopicmouse
....also it has to be rated in same category as sperm. it cant still naturally abort/fail miscarriage. fetus is only 'potential' for life, same as a sperm, and plenty of tissue end up in the bin, now don't they!?
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If mitosis has begun then a new life has started..if it spontaneously aborts, then it has died of natural causes...often completely unknown...but then, being known isn't a requisite for being human is it?... Anyway, it is a unique human being that has died.
You don't seem to understand what "alive" is...when the cells start dividing, then it is alive...a fetus is a potential life, in the same way that you are a potential old geezer.