America's way might be more equitable then most of the past, but not in comparison to certain countries as far as providing oppurtunites. Who ever said that we should socially engineer everyone to an equal level? I'm not talking about creating some army of clones and cyborgs, lmao. All I'm saying is that, frankly, privatization is only good for so much, and more frankly, that the United States, despite our vast amount of wealth, does not provide as good as oppurtunities for the poor among us as Socialist countries. Their economy over all may or may not be equal to ours thanks to inherint flaws in humanity, but at the very least, they provide the minimal requirements for human life for all well enough, have low crime rates, and educate their people much better then anything the U.S. has to offer, despite our advantage in monetary resources. Actually, their educational systems do quite the opposite as far as making everyone equal; they split students up into group a. the morons who pour concrete, and group b. the people who have a chance of becoming doctors. However, even so, the moron school is still better then the average American school. It's not very hard to see that, tons of studies have been done. What od you mean that people can not achieve in Socialist countries? Japan and Switzerland are both more advanced then the United States in technological areas, and many countries in Europe are more advanced in technical art. Their housing isn't as cheap as ours, and their food is more expensive, but that is simply market economics in both countries as they don't have much space and import a great deal of their products. Overall, however, by standards of quality of life, both countries are ahead of the United States in most respects, especially Switzerland. They have the same standard of living and only use half as much energy as the U.S. Think about that. Throwing money at the problem and such isn't going to solve anything--look at Iraq--but when it comes right down to it, these countries both have very efficient domestic programs, which make the U.S. look like a joke, even though our economy is about twice the size of theirs, and even though we could virtually create the same programs with the tax money we have currently. It's not cause they are Socialist, it's cause they are efficient. End of story. Even so, people always ask to name a country where Socialism is successful--so there you go, I've named two.