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Me: I dont know of anyone that doesnt have access to ballots.
Just like you didn't know any Jewsih neo-cons? LOL. You are a hoot.
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Yeah, you quoted a total of about half a dozen Jew neo-cons out of hundreds of thousands...not sure if that is a reason to pat yourself on the back.
You imply that people are being denied access to ballot boxes deliberately on a wide scale...yet you refuse to provide any proof. Uh-huh.
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Look up the ballot laws in your state. I GUARANTEE you will quickly find out write-ins really don't count.
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So what? You CAN vote for whoever you want. You dont have to vote for any major party or any specific candidate. So your ridiculous statement:
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Actually, they can only vote for who's on the ballot! ...
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...is WRONG. Not suprising since you seem to have a habit of pulling "facts" out of your a.s.s. and expecting people to believe you.
The way you know I am older than 16 is because I know how to use the internet to prove my claims. A 16 year old would be more likely to make outrageous claims and refuse to support them because he is either lazy or doesnt know what he's talking about.
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Me: Really? Where are they now?
They were invaded. But, thats irrelevent.
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So much for "doing pretty well". Anyone can do pretty well in a vaccum. The original statement seems to be accurate in that sense at least; Free societies now flourish while those societies are long dead.
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Their societies worked. Only, each was eventually eclipsed by more militarily powerful countries.
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Which in turn were exclipsed by us.
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We don't live in an age where countries being toppled by more militarily powerful countries is the norm.
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Because the most powerful nations share the attributes described in the original post. It is still might makes right (Iraq should prove that to you if nothing else)...invasions are no longer the norm because nations like US are the dominant force on the planet.
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But again, thats irrelevent. I'm not saying they were better cultures and societies, I'm just saying they had a point when they said that maybe government's purpose should be to help the people lead as best lives as possible.
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I think everyone can agree on that...at least all democratic governments can.
And I am saying our cultures are better than their's...in just about every way that matters. We may or may not adapt...but we know for certain that they FAILED to adapt. Therefore we know for certain they were inferior.
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Furthermore, such an idea was not based on something that can be proven. I mean, when you think about it, where exactly do we get these rights?
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Mutual greed ultimately. We protect the rights of others because, in the larger scheme, our own rights are protected as well.
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We all say that we naturally have them, but whose to say that we dont? Where is it written that we have the the right to freedom naturally.
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Its written in the club in my hand...the pistol in my grip...the bomb under my wing....and the button under my finger that launches my nuclear missile. It all comes down to might makes right. For whatever reason, free societies are stronger. That much should be obvious by now.
Natural rights are defined by the strongest. In democratic societies, the majority = the strongest.