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Old 06-19-2005, 06:43 PM
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And if the Iraqi soldiers are never very affective against the terrorists, then what? How will we know when it is time to withdraw our forces? More important, when do we recognize that it's useless to stay there. Would you be willing to keep U.S. troops there during fragmentation and comprehensive all out Civil conflict? We cant trust the Bush/Military assessments as to how this war is progressing. The current administration will alway be tossing rosy assessments our way. There will always be yet one more reason we have to stay there. So who do we trust on this?
It is clear that the government is putting a positive spin on the war. This is not new. The FACT that the Bush Administration has continued the policy of not allowing reporters to take pictures of the coffins coming home is proof that the Administration, like those before it, will do anything it can to stop the war from being real to the public.

I have no doubt that we will defeat the insurgency; the question is how many soldiers will die in the process.

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There will come a point when as a nation we will be willing to invest only so much of our national treasure and sacrifice only so many human lives for this conflict. When we reach that point how do we answer for those who have already been sacrificed. . ?
We can't pull out before the job is done. To do so would be a slap in the face to each person who served in this war. If public opinion gets bad enough, it is likely that President Bush will declare victory (again) and pull the troops while telling the world that the job is done. If he does bow to pressure, he will be excoriated by all Americans; the anti-Iraq war will excoriate him for needlessly putting troops in Iraq, and the pro-Iraq war people will excoriate him for failing to finish the job.

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With great passion, I don't believe it will ever be too late to protect soldiers. I don't want to keep sacrificing soldiers for a worthless cause.
Thanks for your kind comments, and I do agree with you that we should continue to protect our soldiers, but we can't protect them by bringing them home. To do so would be a slap in the face to every soldier who served and it would cement our image as a country that cuts and runs when things don't go well. This would open us to future attacks.

I think Rummy looked ridiculous when he told the press that armor was being added as fast as possible and a contractors came forward to, in effect, tell the public that Rummy was out of his own loop; or that is was a liar. We should spend every dollar necessary to give our troops everything they need to be as safe as possible. And I hope that the money we spend is so high that the American people will remember and oppose the next needless war the government proposes.
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