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Old 06-19-2005, 07:03 PM
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I disagree. This war was going to be fought somewhere.
You don't know that. The arab world has hated the US and the west for a LONG time and not only was an all-out conflict NOT necessary, it is likely that the all-out conflict we have in Iraq will create more hatred than it solves. The illegality of the war and the indifference of the American people shows the world that we are not a nation of laws; our military might is the alter on which the US places its faith.

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Better there than here, IMO.
You don't think that they can fight both there AND here. Remember, that eight years elapsed between the first attack on the WTC and 9.11. It has only been four years since 9.11.

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Those who seem to believe if only we had left the terrorists alone; they'd leave us alone.....must have already forgotten about 9/11. They are NOT going to "leave us alone" no matter what we do. And they were NOT going to leave us alone even if we had NOT gone into Iraq. That's wishful thinking.
Are you saying that we left the arab world alone prior to 9.11? 9.11 can't be justified, but there are reasons why the middle east and Persia hates the US and the west.

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They don't like our cultural nfluence.
They don't? LOL The people in charge certainly don't, but the younger people who are the ones signing up for jihad DO like our cultural influences. They just hate us for different reasons.

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And it's about time some of the naysayers in this country get on-board and help in this fight. OR at least shut up and stop helping them. Playing politics with this is beyond the pale. It's too important to all of us.
So, I am helping the insurgents and the terrorists? You have got to be kidding. If the government wants people to support it, it has to act in a manner worthy of support. The world was with us after 9.11. We had almost universal support in our fight in Afghanistan. We had unparalleled good will. Bush squandered all of it when he pushed for the Iraq war.

BTW, something I would like to remind you is that when we invaded Iraq, Germany increased its troops in Afghanistan so perhaps we should stop bashing "Old Europe" for their non-support of the illegal and needless Iraq invasion.
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