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Old 07-05-2005, 09:53 AM
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Cuba is not communist. It is a perverted version of communism
It is what inevitably happens when communism is attempted. To date we havnt seen a single exception.

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a feudal police-state that bears no resemblance to Marx's ideal.
Marx's ideal cant exist in the real world. it might as well be fiction.

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In true communism, there would be no dictator (as communism is a CLASSLESS society) but an open forum where parties representing the proletariat can put forth their ideas in order to influence the consciousness of the proletariat. Those ideas that the proletariat support are implemented; i.e. a democracy.
If the proletariat votes on every bit of minutia, then they would not have time to work and produce. The only way to avoid this is by electing representatives to make descisions for them by proxy. If this happens, it is no longer a classless society.

The obvious alternative to this is totalitarianism in various degrees.

Communists look at the end result without explaining how they will achieve it. Until they can explain this, no one will take it seriously.

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In a communist society, there would be no suppression of free speech, free thought, free movement/assembly etc. The only suppression would be that of the bourgeoise who would inevitably attempt to revert the nation back to capitalism, to a state where the proletariat are once again suppressed.
So much for free speech. What if the non-bourgeoise masses want to revert back?

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'Defence' (attack) would be irrelevant in a communist world as all people would be equal so there would be no need to fight. Indeed, there would be no borders to defend.
Assuming everyone was communist...BFD. You could say the exact same thing about Capitalism and democracy. Actually you could probably say that about any ideology.

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For a CAPITALIST economy to function, there must be poor people
No communist society would be completely egalitarian. There would always be people with slightly better living conditions/food/whatever. Therefore, there would be "poor" people even then.

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From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
What incentive would they have to work to their ability if they get the same reward no matter what?
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