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Old 08-03-2005, 09:21 AM
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I'll repeat the question I asked above: Are you saying I should make a positive assertion about something that I don't, in fact, have positive knowledge about?
“Making a positive assertion about something for which you have no positive knowledge” is a wonderful definition for “faith” and it is the only way you will ever receive proof that God exists.


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Any objective proof (public miracles performed, for example) or my own personal anecdotal proof (God decides to reveal himself to me in such a way that I'm convinced it's not just a hallucination). ..."how do you know it's the Christian God"...
From my understanding of the Bible, God seems to get ticked off by people asking Him to perform miracles. This makes sense to me, because God does not need to prove Himself to anyone. If you think it through, for people to expect miracles from God just so they can have proof He exists is pretty presumptuous and arrogant. Actually, it is clear in the Bible that people must make the first move when it comes to establishing a relationship with God.

Don’t let pride about your intelligence stand in the way of getting to know God. You obviously are extremely intelligent and I get the feeling that you think by accepting on faith that there is a God, your intelligence will somehow be diminished. If other people think you are less intelligent because you have faith, oh well - that’s part of humbling yourself before God.

As far as which faith is correct, I believe that Judaism is correct; unfortunately, many Jews failed to recognize their Messiah. As far as Islam is concerned, at it’s very core is the belief that non-Muslims must either be converted or destroyed and that the god of Islam fooled people into believing that Jesus had been crucified. These should be major red flags.

Christianity is the only faith that provides people with the opportunity to have a personal relationship with God. I know that phrase gets tossed around a lot by Christians, but it just means that after you become a Christian, you start “seeing” God at work in your life on a personal level. I don’t mean to be condescending, but the experience of getting closer to God is difficult to describe without a common frame of reference. It would be like a woman trying to convey to me the feeling she got after buying a new purse - the experience gets lost in translation.

Even though a simple prayer is all that is required to establish a relationship with God, for most people the difficult part is being able to humble him/herself. It takes a lot of humility for a person to get on his/her knees and say a heart-felt prayer to an invisible God and then tell other people about that love for this invisible God.

If you do ever decide to accept on faith that God exists and then humble yourself enough to admit that you are a sinner, just like everyone else in the world, and accept that Jesus died for your sins, I am confident you will receive all of the proof you seek beyond any shadow of a doubt. You are so close to receiving the personal anecdotal evidence you seek, but proving the existence of God is a Catch 22, because in order for you to receive proof that God exists you first must believe that God exists.
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