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Originally Posted by apotropoxy";p="
A fetus does not live independent of its mother.
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If you or I kill a fetus, it may be murder. Outside the framework of an abortion by a registered clinic, it may still be murder to kill a fetus.[/quote]
Your comments speak the the current condition of some state laws and not to the ethical or philosophical question raised with this topic. Mine do. Since a fetus dies when a mother dies we can see that the fetus is entirely dependent on the mother-host for its viability. Once that fetus is born successfully, it is a baby and is capable of living its own life. I believe that it is at this point that killing is murder and not before.