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Originally Posted by ForceoftheTruth";p="
Wildbore, I understand why you support gun control. If you recall, I supported it myself until recently. There is a great deal of violence in our society, and much of it is perpetrated with firearms. As I came to realize, however, gun control only makes the problem worse.
First, until recently, I bought into the scare tactics about "assault" weapons. In reality, the definition of an assault weapon is purely arbitrary. I found that out in doing careful research on the issue. A second factor is racial profiling, along with class, gender and other kinds of prejudice that are inevitable in any form of licensing or other regulation of gun ownership. The first gun control laws in the United States were racist Jim Crow laws. With licensing, moreover, comes a waiting period. Given that many people who buy guns do so because they have reason to fear a stalker of one kind or another, that waiting period has undoubtedly cost many lives. Third, there is the fact that criminals buy guns whether they are legal or not. 1 in 4 American felons, according to a survey in the book Shot Down, expects to have no difficulty in purchasing a gun after being released, despite the fact that it is illegal for felons to purchase firearms. Gun control doesn't take guns out the hands of criminals- it just keeps them out the hands of people who need protection from criminals. With it comes arbitrary and potentially bigoted government control, which is far from liberal.
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Jim Crow laws may actually have an affect. As you notice there are far less murders and violent crime in general in the Northern States, no doubt due to the lack of Jim Crow influence. I don't think that there are that many stalkers out there to justify scrapping the waiting list period. If you are really that afraid you can always stay with a friend until you pass the waiting period. I know the assualt weapons are just normal guns with simple modifications, I could care less, there are still dangerous guns out there like tec 9s and uzis that floating around in gangs are dangerous to society.
Gun Control obviously does not address everything, I am not suggesting it does. You need to have severe punishment for gun crimes and more law enforcement and prosecutors.
We all know the U.S. has high gun violence rates, if gun control won't work to reduce this problem then what will. Either you can care less about the thousands dieing or you can actually contribute by posting something other than Gun Control won't work.
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Originally Posted by sailorman126";p="
please can people that say how bad guns are start using facts?
fact states that have carried concealled laws have a drop in violent crime.
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Well obviously it hasn't done much, U.S. gun violence is still among the highest of all OECD countries.
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Originally Posted by sailorman126";p="
fact criminals are more afraid of a home owner with a gun than of a security system.
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The point is security systems are good first line of defense, even if you are a gun owner, its good to be alerted of an intruder so you are not sleeping while your wife is being raped. Security systems also act as a deterrence. Fact, burgulars are so afraid of security systems they usually target houses without them.
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Originally Posted by sailorman126";p="
fact when people site how many deaths are caused by a gun they include police shooting criminals and ordinary citizens shooting criminals in self defencse.
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Obviously no one here is talking about gun deaths, we are talking about gun violence and gun murders, which only include the CRIMES commited, not acts of self defence.
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Originally Posted by sailorman126";p="
fact the stat that says that homes with guns in them, kill more friends or family that with out is made up.
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Clearly its made up, but there is still a small number of incidents per year where unforunately family and friends are mistakenly shot.
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Originally Posted by sailorman126";p="
fact in places that have banned guns violent crime has gone up. the perfect example is the uk where after banning of guns stabbings are so high they are talking about banning knives.
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Fact is in a couple places it has, but the overall trend shows that countries with low rates of gun murders have only slightly higher rates of non-gun murders. There is some overspill into things like knife killings, but generally not to the extent the gun control is undermined. It is likely the trend is applicable to violence in the same way.
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Originally Posted by kaka100";p="
if the breaker has a gun,shooting him will be a good idea. and u cannot say:"i will hit him with a club" because u can't predict anything....maybe u cant reach the club and maybe he has a gun.....it's lame and pathetic trying to predict the way to break into ur home.....if some1 broke into ur house,he has no right's since he violalted ur's,and in order to defend urself and ur famuly its ur responsability.....u can't convince others not to carry gun.
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You idiot, obviously if someone was a threat and I had a gun I would use a gun. I am not some moron that would use a club for the sake of not using a gun. The last thing anyone wants to do is to prevent a law-abiding home owner from possessing a gun, but there is no rational justification for shooting an unarmed and non-threatning home invader.