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Originally Posted by ForceoftheTruth";p="
Okay, even if you're saying that the current administration is comparable only with pre-World War II Nazi Germany,
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No, that's not what I am saying. If you had bothered to read the whole thread, you would know that we have been comparing the current situation in America to a variety of fascist style governments that have flourished briefly in the last 60 years or so.
Not "comparable
only with pre-World War II Nazi Germany".
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Originally Posted by ForceoftheTruth";p="
I can still give you a comparison:
In the 1930's, Hitler encouraged anti-Semitic violence, forced Jews to wear identifying Stars of David and seized all Jewish businesses.
The current administration has done nothing comparable to Arabs, members of the Islamic religion or to anyone else.
Hitler banned opposing political parties.
The Democratic Party and other parties far left of it still exist.
Hitler took over territory by stealth even before World War II.
Again, no one in the current administration has attempted to colonize any land.
Hitler massacred homosexuals in the 1930's.
Bush supports civil unions and Cheney openly opposes the idea of an anti-gay marriage Amendment.
I am not a neoconservative, just in case that is what you assumed. If you want to label me, I'm more of a paleoconservative with some libertarian leanings. My point isn't that Bush is a great leader; I recognize that he is a mediocre one. My point is that comparing the current administration with Nazi Germany or any form of fascism is like comparing the Democratic Party to the followers of Stalin or Mao.
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Did you even bother to read my answer to your previous post? Repeating the same points I picked apart before doesn't make them any more germane to the topic. It just makes you look like a pig-headed fool. Picking out a few points where there is no exact correlation between America under Bush and Germany under Hitler proves nothing about whether or not America is moving in the direction of fascism. The articles and essays posted on this thread bring up many points of correspondence between previous fascist style governments and events currently unfolding in America. I notice you don't even try to address those points but rather you just keep insisting that if Bush doesn't round up homos and gas them, then we are in no danger of creeping fascism. Fine, keep your head stuck in a hole in the sand and refuse to see what's going on because it upsets your personal mythology about America. Our country has gone thru great changes in some fundamental structures in recent decades but many of the changes seem to have been slipped in below the radar for most Americans.
To remind you of what was said in one of the articles I posted previously:
"The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to
poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to
use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power.
If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful.
American fascism will not be really dangerous until there is a purposeful coalition among the cartelists, the deliberate poisoners of public information, and those who stand for the K.K.K. type of demagoguery.
The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact.
They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.
Fascism in the postwar inevitably
will push steadily for Anglo-Saxon imperialism..."
VP Henry A. Wallace gave the country a very insightful and very prescient warning about the dangers of home grown American style fascists. Too bad we didn't listen very well. You insist on saying that if Bush isn't doing
exactly what Hitler did, then what he is doing can't be called 'fascist'. I'm afraid you are missing the point.