And that is exactly the way the administration wants it. They do not allow the UN to visit our prisons. They do not allow the Red Cross unsupervised visits with detainees. There is no transparancy in the detention or in the investigation of claims.

So while muliple "allegations" of torture are dismissed over and over again by the right wing, the fact that there is no answers given makes me suspect that the secrecy, like all of this administrations secrecy is not to advance national security, but to protect this administration from going to jail.

IF you support this administration, this is what you stand for:

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/12/19/afghan12319.htm

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/11/21/usdom12069.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2005Mar2.html

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4977986

So I have only one question for you Barney, IF this is not torture, then I guess you would be willing to submit to a single day of this treatment to prove it as such. (Of course you could end up dead, but that is not torture, I guess in your eyes)

And if our actions are legal, then why is the "dark prison" or the "salt pit" and who we keep there so secret?