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Old 05-29-2004, 01:56 AM
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Default Are you really a "girl", yooper?

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what gives you the right to deny someone an abortion? it's her body and her child. though we may not like it, we cannot deprive a person of their right to choose.

If our forefathers ever thougth legalized abortion would be an issue they would have drafted laws against it... and everyone knows it.

With that said;

Americans have the wherewithal to deny someone an abortion. We are a land of Laws. We can most certainly devise a law denying women the right to an abortion.

What you fail to see is Abortion is the Lazy Woman’s way of birth control. If she’s so concerned about her rights to an abortion… why isn’t she concerned enough to protect her from becoming pregnant? Why are the women in this country so willing to overlook a woman’s obligation to take care of herself. Because she’s a woman????? Lame. Women owe it to themselves to make certain they never become pregnant when they don’t’ want to be. And anything less in this country, in this day and age, comes from laziness and ignorance. Shame on us for being so accepting.

A) - when Roe v Wade was passed it gave us a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to legal abortions - - so that part of your post was just wrong, dear.


B)On what do you base your OPINION, stated as FACT, about what the founding fathers would have thought about abortion? You DO realize that slave owners, which lots of our founding fathers were, regularly had their female slaves abort pregnancies they, the owners, did not want to come to term, right? Slave owners only wanted certain slaves to breed, to improve the line (like horse or dog breeders) also if a slave's pregnancy would cause an inconvenience they aborted it. Like if the slave was the lady-of-the-house's personal maid - her final weeks of pregnancy and first weeks with the new baby would leave her unavailable for the lady-of-the-house's service.



C) the reason I wonder if you are really a girl, as your moniker implies, is because you made a blanket statement that abortion is lazy women's birth control and the ignorance encompassed by that statement makes me wonder about your gender.
I mean, don't ALL women know it's not only possible to get pregnant while on the pill (even if you take it properly) but it happens all the time?
I agree that women need to be responsible and diligent with their chosen birth control method(s) if they don't want a pregnancy to occur, but NO birth control method is 100% effective.

Abortions are sometimes necessary for other reasons.

I'll give you an example from my own family;back in 1955 my mother delivered a very large baby boy - BREECH! He weighed in at 10.2 lbs and she had to be flat on her back in bed for 3 weeks before the birth because of the weight of the big baby on her internal organs.

Obviously, since this was a breech birth, it really took its toll on her, physically.
10 months after that birth she was pregnant again and her doctor said she couldn't carry the baby - her body hadn't healed enough yet, and even if she did manage to somehow not miscarry, it would destroy any chances for any pregnancies after that. Her doctor advised her to abort the pregnancy, and since it was highly illegal back in those days, he told her who to get in touch with and told her he would never admit in a court of law he advised the abortion OR gave her the info.

She went off on a bus to a larger city a couple of hours away and stayed for the weekend at a "private clinic". The doctor was not licensed, but the nurse was, and the procedure went well, so my mom was a lucky one.

She went on to heal just fine and had 3 healthy children afterwards.





So lose the yayaya about "lazy" women using abortion for birth control.

Not only is the blanket statement totally avoiding REALITY, you wouldn't make the statement at all if you had ever been through the procedure, madear.
It ain't something you want to do all the time instead of taking a pill or wearing a patch.
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