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This made me laugh. Where did you get this BS? Any one want to explain to him what's wrong with this statement? (Hint: It's not a grammatical error.)
With such a basic mistake, I can't take the rest of the post seriously.
To anyone who still takes NS's posts seriously, I have 2 bridges to sell you. George Washington slept on one of them.
You don't even know what makes Ozone and you're arguing with me???? LOL!!!!
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Your comprehension skills are letting you down again.

All CFCs are Haloalkanes, but not all Haloalkanes are CFCs.

Mt. Pinatubo (or any other volcano) did not spew billions on tons of CFC's into the atmosphere.

The atmospheric CFCs responsible for the breakdown of the ozone layer are man made.
A study was done in 2002, that showed that Volcanoes can indeed cause Ozone depletion, I used to have access to the full article but now I can't find it, though here's a summary by ABC.
. The full article says that originally, it was though that this type of eruption wouldn't inject matter high enough into the atmosphere to cause an effect of this magnitude, but it did in fact case a massive expansion of the hole in the ozone layer.

Even the EPA says that shortly afterwards, the amount of chlorine in the atmosphere increased by 10%, (of the short term variety, it dissipates within a year). Keep in mind that 99.9978% of all chlorine in the atmosphere is naturally occurring. It is the Chlorine component of CFC's that they say are destroying the ozone layer. We were told that just a 1% increase in CFC's would have catastrophic consequences, which is why we had to act, yet here was an eruption, that increase chlorine by TEN PERCENT? Why did the world not end?
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A study was done in 2002, that showed that Volcanoes can indeed cause Ozone depletion, I used to have access to the full article but now I can't find it, though here's a summary by ABC.
. The full article says that originally, it was though that this type of eruption wouldn't inject matter high enough into the atmosphere to cause an effect of this magnitude, but it did in fact case a massive expansion of the hole in the ozone layer.

Even the EPA says that shortly afterwards, the amount of chlorine in the atmosphere increased by 10%, (of the short term variety, it dissipates within a year). Keep in mind that 99.9978% of all chlorine in the atmosphere is naturally occurring. It is the Chlorine component of CFC's that they say are destroying the ozone layer. We were told that just a 1% increase in CFC's would have catastrophic consequences, which is why we had to act, yet here was an eruption, that increase chlorine by TEN PERCENT? Why did the world not end?
You wrote that Mt Pinatubo "spewed Billions on tons of CFC's into the Atmosphere"

That is complete and utter nonsense.

Very large volcanic eruptions may throw sulfate aerosols and HCL into the upper atmosphere - where in the presence on man-made CFCs, they will increase ozone depletion.

Volcanoes do not emit CFCs to the ozone layer.

Read your own link:
The researchers from NASA, San Jose State University and the University of Colorado predict the hole will appear if volcanic activity coincides with cold Arctic winters, during a time when there are still high levels of ozone-depleting CFCs in the atmosphere....

While reduction in the use of CFCs has been successful, ozone recovery is not guaranteed because it can be jeopardised by volcanic eruption.

"We can predict with confidence that there will be enough CFCs around for the next 30 years that a major eruption will enhance ozone depletion," Dr Fraser said.
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Yes I see your logic, one mistake impunes the whole movie. Only because you'd like it to.
No - fabricating evidence and misprepresenting the views of its contributors impunes the whole movie.

I haven't seen anyone here quote "An Unfortunate Truth" as evidence of anything. Why do you quote this garbage?
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You don't even know what makes Ozone and you're arguing with me???? LOL!!!!
You think that Mt Pinatubo "spewed Billions on tons of CFC's into the Atmosphere" - how can you argue with anyone?
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"many on both sides"? I don't think so. When there are a large number of peer-reviewed papers showing evidence of AGW and a few against AGW, then, yes, there is a consensus that humans are partly responsible for the increased global temperatures. For every paper against AGW I could find at least 5 papers for AGW.
Why would a prominent scientist, an author for the Observations chapter and a Reviewer for the 2nd Assessment Report in 1995, writing the sections on observed changes in tropical cyclones around the world, a contributing author once more, for its "Third Assessment Report" in 2001, and an author in the "Fourth Assessment Report." simply quit?

In his own words.

I believe many more will follow lest nature prove them fools.
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Man-made global warming is nothing more than a scam, based on flawed computer models and hidden agendas. When was the Earth's climate ever constant? On a geological timescale, the last ice age was yesterday, the next one arrives tomorrow, in between we have a warm period. In the past 740,000 years we have had 8 ice ages, each followed by 'global warming.'

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Show me a single one of the Carbon Charts, that DON'T show Hawaii as the source for their Carbon measurements. I've not been able to find a single one.

As for my fact that CO2 has been going up exponentially, have you been asleep? Ever heard of a little country called China, you know, the most populated country in the world, and this other little place called India, the second most populated country in the world? Never heard of them? OK, simple math genius, do I REALLY need to provide links for this? If the U.S., up until just a few years ago the biggest CO2 output nation in the world, has NOT reduced it's CO2 output, (we've only slowed down the growth). But China, has now SURPASSED US, then what does that tell you? I mean you have no ability to do deductive reasoning? Europe you say? Here's a dirty little secret, even though they signed Kyoto, they haven't decreased their CO2 output either.
Do you read your own links?

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The Global Monitoring Division of NOAA/Earth System Research Laboratory has measured carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases for several decades at a globally distributed network of air sampling sites (Conway, 1994).
You do know what "exponentially" means, right?
here's a chart of CO2 output
for the world
1980...18,330.68
1981...18,074.20
1982...17,974.14
1983...18,093.91
1984...18,942.79
1985...19,408.42
1986...19,790.50
1987...20,341.12
1988...20,998.04
1989...21,330.10
1990...21,394.92
1991...21,281.46
1992...21,246.75
1993...21,481.45
1994...21,644.31
1995...21,989.88
1996...22,530.53
1997...22,969.09
1998...22,900.86
1999...23,289.59
2000...23,751.01
2001...24,011.54
2002...24,545.94
2003...25,779.84
2004...27,185.85
2005...28,192.74
Nope, no exponential rise.
Try posting some facts you can back up instead of your useless misinformation
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