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Originally Posted by JavaBlack";p="
So abortion isn't murder so long as it's legal but is when it is illegal? Would you say the same if shooting a cheating spouse became legal? Or getting rid of a neighbor that steps on your porch to hand you some mixed up mail?
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If abortion is illegal then that still doesen't constitute a murder. Since a fetus is not really recognized under the law, one could get away with a large fine, perhaps some jail time for committing a banned act. If the justice system recognizes the fetus as a person under the law, then there is no doubt that when an abortion is discovered the doctor would be charged with murder and the to-be mother would be an accessory.
Yes I would say the same thing. As much as people agree or disagree with laws, they are there, you have to live with them.
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Originally Posted by Sickntiredofliblies";p="
Slavery was legal in the past. People were property. It seems that some still are. Many didn't care if slaves were killed back then, and people like you want to make sure that it keeps happening. You are a fool with absolutely no concept of human rights.
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Actually a fetus more closely resembles a random piece of garbage than property. You cannot buy/sell a fetus, a fetus cannot perform manual labour, a fetus cannot rebel, it exists inside someone, and that person has complete control over it. A fetus is pretty useless, that is one reason why I am not for overturning a women's right to choose. Abortion is not the ideal choice, but it is available to women, and few are going to lose sleep over the death of a fetus. HAHAHA, I am a fool because I speak the truth and want to protect women's rights... Sickntiredofliblies makes no sense. If anyone has a clear concept of human rights it is myself as I am not blinded by religion or patriarchy, like many of you are.
We can just put this in an analagy. Animal's have rights, but the mass slaughtering of livestock is OK. Personally I think millions of animals dieing per day is worse than hundreds of fetus' dieing per day, but farmers have the right to do this and I am not going to make an issue of it. Despite Women having the right to an abortion, the death of a fetus is suddenly a big issue. The vegetarians and pro-lifers have something in common, they both play politics with peoples rights, although there are alot more pro-lifers (far-right wingers).