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Old 01-31-2006, 06:54 AM
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pretend to be you, S.S., for a moment and say:" perhaps, you haven't noticed the potential downsides because you don't like to acknowledge them" .
You would have to define what they are in order for me to acknowledge them.

So far the only "downsides" I have seen are things the Public School system is not responsible for either way. They are social services. The school system does not = social services.

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I would truly enjoy seeing what would happen if private schools in Birmginham were forced to accept poor black students.
Who says they would be "forced"? They would probably be eager for the new revenue stream.

Anyone accepting state money would of course have to comply with non-discrimination laws. Even assuming they didnt, what makes you think new schools would not form to exploit this new market?

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I am a complete cynic at this point.
I understand that. I am not sure why though. So far you have not been able to explain any downsides over the current system.

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I feel sure that it would pan out that blacks would be excluded from private white schools and affluent whites would be able to divert their share of property tax toward the education of their privately educated white kids.
How can you "feel sure" when you cant even articulate the reasons? It really sounds to me like you want to punish white people for refusing to embrace your point of view.

Either way, it can only be a good thing for the poor. They can shop elsewhere if the state cant provide them with what they need.

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Special ed. funding is a major consideration
I have already covered that. Would you like me to cut and paste my response again?

If you dont think it'll work, then just explain WHY. Why is that so difficult?

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These inner city communities are not wealthy enough to pay for the help these kids need.
Then give them their tax money and let them shop elsewhere.

You want to pin them down to the poor inner cities. I want to let them roam and give them a choice.

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WHO is going to pay for it?
The same people paying for it now: Tax payers.

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The Cleveland voucher program spent a couple thousand extra per pupil. This money aided 33% who were ALREADY in private school.
Why shouldnt it? They are paying taxes arnt they? Why shouldnt they have access to their own tax money?

I would like to see your source on the Cleveland program.

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If the country is planning to spend a bunch more money on education than it is really important to think about the best way to spend it and who needs it the most.
I dont know the details of the Cleveland program. Why was the extra money required? What did it pay for?

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If we are going to embark on a voucher system then it is vitally impotant IMO to release public schools from fed. mandates like NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND and allow them the freedom to be innovative.
Why?

Not that I necessarily disagree with you. But I want to hear your reasons.
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