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Me: How do you tell a conscious being fron a non-conscious being?
Pretty much the same way you do.
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The existence of brain activity?
I dont want to put words in your mouth. That is why I am asking you to elaborate.
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Yes. As I said I define consciousness the same way you do. Or at least the same way you have described in this thread.
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Me: The alternative is worse. My solution is simply to apply the same laws we have now with regards to other people. Treat it as a person, and not an object. Dont draw a distinction. That is my solution.
The alternative being?
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What we have now; treating the fetus like property that can be disposed of by the mother if she see's fit.
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Banning it completely will do more harm than good.
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To who? Not much more harm you can do than death....thats about as bad as harm gets.
Banning it will result in fewer deaths. That doesnt sound like harm to me.
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No, banning will result in just as many, if not more deaths. Instead of going to a hospital to get an abortion, women will get abortions done on the street and by unprofessionals, thus putting them in grave danger.
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Abortion should be legal, but it should be seen as the absolute last option. That is done through education.
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Can we make the same argument for slavery? "It is only ok as an absolute last option".
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Slavery and abortion are two entirely different things.