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Originally Posted by offspring13";p="
Never said puppies have more rights than children. I said I think it would be better to stop them from being born (not killed) than giving them away like puppies. I don't see how anyone could give their child away.
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Where are you from? I’d like to know where babies are given away like puppies. Do they keep them piled in a big cardboard box with “free” spray painted across the front? Even if unwanted babies were given away in that manner (which they obviously are not in the United States) I would rather live than die. People give their children up for adoption because they care about the life of the child. I don’t see how anyone could kill their own baby, especially for reasons of convenience.
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Originally Posted by offspring13";p="
She also has the option of abortion as birth control until it is proven that a few week old fetus has consciousness.
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So your saying that consciousness equals life. If so, anyone that gets knocked unconscious is fair game for being killed? Say in a car accident. A few people get knocked unconscious; they can then be killed. Or say someone is in a temporary coma. Hmmm…very interesting. LOL!
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Originally Posted by offspring13";p="
If it ain't fully mature (capable of survival on its own, having consciousness, hell...stops resembling a blob) its not murder. Going out and killing a deer is worse than scraping out a blob.
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Very insightful stuff. Well said. LOL! Wow…Where do I start? By your definition, “fully mature” means capable of surviving on its own and having consciousness. A one year old baby cannot survive on its own, so can it still be aborted? Even a 2, 3, or 4 year old child cannot survive on their own. I guess by your definition they can still be killed off. I suppose people with certain special needs are also still eligible to be aborted. They may have consciousness, but they cannot survive on their own. So technically they are not alive by your definition.
So, when does consciousness occur? And when can a person survive on their own? You must know these exact times, otherwise you risk murdering someone, by your definition.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
People shouldn’t have to take responsibility for their actions!
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Originally Posted by offspring13";p="
They are. They are getting abortions. You want to take their right to responsiblity away and make the decision for them.
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If you call responsibility murdering your unborn baby, then abortion is very responsible.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
So you want to use abortion as a means of birth / population control? You are a proponent of irresponsibility and cowardice. How about this, if two people have sex and the woman gets pregnant…take care of your baby. Isn’t that a novel idea?
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Originally Posted by offspring13";p="
It is irresponsible. It’s much easier to use other forms of birth control than to go through the procedure. Sometimes other methods fail though.
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Wait a second! Didn’t you just say that abortion is RESPONSIBLE! Now you’re saying it’s IRRESPONSIBLE. Which is it?
By the way, you’re right. Not all birth control is 100% effective. So you must take that into consideration when having sex. You just might create another life. With sex comes responsibility.
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Originally Posted by offspring13";p="
I do agree that parents should take care of their children....once they are children. Most of the pro-lifers on here don't seem to agree however. They support giving your child away.
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So when do children become children? Parents must know this exact time so that they know when to start taking care of them. LOL.