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Originally Posted by javablack
What's really wrong with giving up a kid for adoption?
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Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that there is a way for families who can't have children to raise one. I just don't see how any sane person could give up their kid.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
People give their children up for adoption because they care about the life of the child. I don’t see how anyone could kill their own baby, especially for reasons of convenience.
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Don't see how its really caring about them to give them up to fate and never know if they were raised properly. Better to not let them be born (not murder).
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
So your saying that consciousness equals life. If so, anyone that gets knocked unconscious is fair game for being killed? Say in a car accident. A few people get knocked unconscious; they can then be killed. Or say someone is in a temporary coma.
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All of your examples are of full fledged human beings going through temporary unconsciousness. In all examples, the brain is still functioning. Much different scenario than a fetus or a corpse.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
A one year old baby cannot survive on its own, so can it still be aborted? Even a 2, 3, or 4 year old child cannot survive on their own. I guess by your definition they can still be killed off.
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They have a human consciousness.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
So, when does consciousness occur? And when can a person survive on their own? You must know these exact times, otherwise you risk murdering someone, by your definition.
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Exactly. There needs to be a big definitive study by hundreds of medical doctors to determine exactly when that barrier is crossed and make laws accordingly.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
Wait a second! Didn’t you just say that abortion is RESPONSIBLE! Now you’re saying it’s IRRESPONSIBLE. Which is it?
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Both are examples of someone taking care of their own situations. One is just more responsible than the other. Sorta like taking your rented movie back on time or paying late charges. Both got your movie back like it was supposed to be, one cost ya more in the end and was a little less responsible.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
By the way, you’re right. Not all birth control is 100% effective. So you must take that into consideration when having sex. You just might create another life. With sex comes responsibility.
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And abortion is still a consideration for the woman.