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Old 02-17-2006, 06:31 AM
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Austrailia never fought for their freedom. It was handed to them. Are you making the claim that we should not consider them a true democracy since they never fought for their freedom?
You gotta be &$^%$# kidding me! The natives of Australia had their way of life destroyed by the people who displaced them. Then later when England decided empire was too expensive, they gave it to those settlers. Never mind that those settlers already had the same culture as the English. Are you planning on displacing the people of the ME with white Europeans so that they can just take up our ideas of freedom the easy way? So far that idea has worked well in the US, Canada, and Australia.
A better example for what you're trying to push is India, since they managed to get their country from the British without violent revolution and without being displaced by English settlers. Note that the way they won their country was simply by exposing some of them, one really amazing one in particular, with Western philosophy and allowing the thought to inspire change. Oh but wait, that's also true for Ho Chi Minh! (*)(*)(*)(*). Sometimes they take our ideas and do stuff we don't like. I guess we have to force it on them.
If the ideas do not inspire change in the people they're given to then leave them the %#$@ alone. And if the ideas inspire something we don't like, don't complain. It's up to us to inspire change, not to mold the world in our image. Unless you want to displace every population on the globe.
And as for Germany and Japan: Germany was a Western country with a similar culture. Japan had a very adaptable culture (they've always prided themselves in taking ideas that work- thus their imperialism and later capitalism) and they're a mostly homogenous culture that doesn't mind a rule by the mode (something you seem to think would be great in this country but will never happen).
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