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Originally Posted by hansmoleman
The death penatly is used as a deterrant for those who brutally murder other people.
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Deterrent for the actual murderer or other potential murderers? The actual murderer is behind bars so is no longer a threat to the public. Execution is NOT a deterrent to other potential murderers. All it does is teach that society deems it ok to kill someone in certain circumstances...they use that to justify their crime.
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Originally Posted by hansmoleman
Those who commit such acts forfeit their own right to live.
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And the same to those who push the executioner switch?
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
Sounds like you’re back peddling.
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Not backpeddling, just trying to show the hilarity of trying to present something so primitive as a human being.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
SO WHEN DOES IT HAVE CONSCIOUSNESS???!!! Quit dodging the question.
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I'm no doctor, but I know enough about science and have enough common sense to know that you can't have a conciousness without a brain or brain waves.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
Don’t you think that we should know that before any abortion? There’s that whole murder problem again.
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Totally agree.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
These are all stages of a HUMAN being.
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A corpse is also a stage.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
Come on, are you kidding. You just said that a fetus is “NO DOUBT ALIVE”.
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Of course, just as human cancer is alive or your foot alive. Just because it is living human tissue doesn't mean it deserves merit as an individual entity.
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Originally Posted by roux-en-y
Exodus 21:22 “If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely (also interpreted as miscarriage) but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, and bruise for bruise.
This situation reveals that a fine is the consequence for accidentally causing a woman to miscarry. The passage doesn’t elaborate on the topic of intentionally causing a woman to miscarry. I can only assume that the consequence would be much worse.
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What the verse basically says is that if the woman only miscarries, the offender only pays a penalty, but if the woman dies, the offender shall also be put to death. So basically, your Bible is saying that a fetus is NOT of equal worth to an adult woman. That actually justifies abortion more than detracts from it.