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Old 02-21-2006, 05:46 AM
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The murderer is now dead and cannot kill again
Or the murderer is behind bars and can't hurt anyone else either. Same difference.

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A baby has done nothing wrong.
We ain't talking about babies. We're talking about fetuses.

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I’ve played along with your whole “consciousness = life” theory and you have yet to tell me when a human fetus gains consciousness or produces brain waves. This is crucial to your crumbling argument.
Because every source I've seen has had different results. Some say the brain stem doesn't fully form until 6 months. Others say brain waves are detected at 8 weeks. Everyone is so (*)(*)(*)(*) biased.

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If you cannot identify with 100% certainty the specific instance when a human fetus gains “consciousness / brain activity” then you could be murdering human beings.
Early on when no brain waves are detected and not even a brain is formed, I think we can be 100% sure.

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Then why are you still arguing your point. This discussion should be over.
No, I think that murder/conciousness problem could be easily solved if we tried. Instead we got wackos screaming its a sucking its thumb at conception and others screaming that its part of their body at 8.5 months.

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A corpse is not alive, which differentiates it from all the stages of a LIVING human being I mentioned earlier.
A fetus is not yet a living human being either.

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They don’t develop into a human child, adolescent, adult, as a human fetus does.
Exactly, develops into, not is a child.

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So it is obvious that the human fetus has significant worth according to the Bible.
Not as significant as futher harm to the mother however. If that happens, eye for an eye and not just a fine.
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