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Originally Posted by entsetzen
i agree completely. and i think one thing the people against abortion don't fully take into account is that when / if it is made illegal, we will only have more mothers and children dying due to the coat-hanger abortions that used to be common before clinics were open.
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Sorry to disappoint, but I believe this talking point should be dropped by the pro-choice side. I mean, if the procedure is banned by the government and made illegal, why should we care if the mother hurts herself doing the procedure? We told her not to do it and she broke the law anyway.
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Originally Posted by sickntiredofliblies
A fetus actually has more potential than any other life you would want to take.
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Thats it in a nutshell there.
Potential life. A fetus has no life at that point in time....none. It has never been outside the womb, never experienced touch, hearing, sight, pain, or even conciousness. It is merely a shell that will eventually become a human being.
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Originally Posted by sickntiredofliblies
To make this lack-of-consciousness to be a good reason for taking life is absurd. When someone becomes a vegetable the only way they can have their life forfeited is to haven chosen that way...and even then they must be found to have no possible way of recovering. When you kill a fetus, you are the one preventing them from gaining consciousness which they absolutely would do if you wouldn't kill them.
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This is quite different. That person HAS a consciousness and life...they are merely unconscious at the present time.
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Originally Posted by sickntiredofliblies
That would be the decent thing to do, unless I'm the only one here who would rather be given away as a child than killed.
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Only if you view it as murder. As I see it, the choices are stop a child from being born or giving it away as a puppy. Giving it away doesn't seem decent from my eyes, but everyone should have their own choice in thier matter.