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    Over the years I posted messages on topics that triggered liberal bile more than did messages about a current news story. Global government was one such topic. Yesterday’s column by Doug Hagmann says this:

    Once thought to be the fanciful designs of the conspiracy minded, there appears to be an acceleration toward one world governance, or the infamous “New World Order.” It is an agenda that has been in place for decades, yet the politically myopic and the agent facilitators deliberately avoid any discussion of its existence. Exposure of this agenda has been hobbled by the merger of major news organizations into a half-dozen corporations who control what is reported. Even many who present themselves as purveyors of the truth decline to discuss the globalist agenda, or are held hostage by big money contracts with editorial stipulations and controls.

    My opposites were not so polite. To them, I was more than conspiracy-minded, I was Chicken Little screaming the sky is falling down.

    When I spoke up for America’s sovereignty, I was called a 1930s isolationist living in a world grown too small for independent nations —— doublespeak for too small for individual liberties. Smoot-Hawley was trotted out like clockwork as proof that sovereignty is the shortest route to hell on earth.

    When I pointed out that isolationism was dead and buried; killed by rapid communications, air travel, international markets, trade, tourism, and legal immigration in every country except Communist countries, I was painted as the one who was trying to enslave Americans behind walls. Ron Paul is getting a taste of what I am talking about because he is being disparaged as an “isolationist.”

    To Democrats, enslaving the entire human race behind the wall the global government crowd is building is somehow desirable although not one UN-loving traitor ever explained why.

    Time and time again I said “Never let Democrats get anywhere the intelligence community.” I also railed against putting all of America’s intelligence agencies under one umbrella controlled by a Director of National Intelligence because I knew that sooner or later a president like Hussein would use it against private sector Americans. The reason for my fears is obvious in the following:


    Structure of the United States Homeland Security Council (Current)

    Chair

    Barack Obama (President of the United States)

    Statutory Attendees

    Joe Biden (Vice President of the United States)
    Tim Geithner (Secretary of the Treasury)
    Leon Panetta (Secretary of Defense)
    Eric Holder (Attorney General)
    Kathleen Sebelius (Secretary of Health and Human Services)
    Ray LaHood (Secretary of Transportation)
    Janet Napolitano (Secretary of Homeland Security)Craig Fugate (Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency)
    Robert Mueller (Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation)
    John Brennan (Homeland Security Advisor)

    Additional Attendees

    General Martin E. Dempsey (Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff)
    William Daley (Chief of Staff)
    Ron Klain (Chief of Staff to the Vice President)
    Thomas Donilon (Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs)
    Jeffrey Zients, acting (Director of the Office of Management and Budget)

    Occasional Participants

    Hillary Rodham Clinton (Secretary of State)
    Tom Vilsack (Secretary of Agriculture)
    Ken Salazar (Secretary of the Interior)
    Steven Chu (Secretary of Energy)
    Hilda Solis (Secretary of Labor)
    Gary Locke (Secretary of Commerce)
    Eric Shinseki (Secretary of Veterans Affairs)
    Lisa P. Jackson (Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency)
    Gene Sperling (Assistant to the President for Economic Policy)
    Melody Barnes (Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy)

    Forget the individuals on the HSC if you’re squeamish about questioning their loyalty, just look at their titles and ask yourself: What the hell does that have to do with protecting this country from foreign enemies? Start with the Environmental Protection Agency; an agency that is more anti-America, and more dangerous, than a nuclear Iran could ever be.

    And if you think electing an establishment Republican just to get rid of Hussein is going to get the garbage on the Homeland Security Council out of government you better see a gaggle of psychiatrists before November 6, 2012. Doug Hagmann has it right:


    One must also question the obvious continuity of agenda from the Bush administration to the Obama administration, and from the congress seated in 2001 through today. Despite pro-Constitutional campaign rhetoric from both Republicans and Democrats, and the rapid acquiescence of some TEA party candidates who now occupy seats of power, it is obvious that the rights of Americans granted by the very Constitution elected officials swore to uphold are under attack. Why the change?

    Mr. Hagmann is rightly concerned with H.R. 1540:

    “. . . Barack Hussein Obama signed into law H.R. 1540, better known as the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). Regardless of any concurrent executive signing statements that are mere window dressing and not legally binding, Obama and every member of congress who crafted and voted for this act has essentially declared war on American citizens on U.S. soil.”

    The coming war inside America
    Doug Hagmann Monday, January 2, 2012

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43630

    I am much more concerned with FEMA Camps:

    Of all the rumors flying around on the internet, one just refuses to die, and it concerns America's FEMA camps.

    In a nutshell, there seems to be a solicitation of bids occurring for the staffing of FEMA camps within 72 hours of implementation by an order from either Homeland Security or the president. This situation begs to be investigated, with special consideration paid to the motives of the present administration.

    I went to the source, the FedBizOpps.gov, and searched for the solicitation number HSFEHQ-10-R-0027, titled National Responder Support Camp.

    A search of the history of the amendments to this Solicitation for Contract showed that it had been modified several times, with the last modification -- number 0008, with an original date of letting out to bid with a synopsis of May 13, 2011 -- occurring on December 16, 2011. This last modification rescinded the solicitation, with said modification's purpose noted as follows:

    January 2, 2012
    New Nationwide FEMA Camps Should Raise Eyebrows
    By Alan P. Halbert

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/..._eyebrows.html

    At least H.R. 1540 is out in the open. The connection between FEMA Camps and Hussein’s Ready Reserve Corps remains invisible to the public’s eye. Everything I said in this OP is reality:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/united...tzstaffel.html

    This excerpt makes the connection to FEMA Camps and Hussein’s Schutzstaffel:

    “You can bet that most of the men and women in the armed services are less than thrilled with Hussein’s Ready Reserve Corps. They are fighting in foreign lands to protect this country while Hussein is arming and empowering his personal army here at home. The Ready Reserve Corps was designed to be a para-military force before it found its way into the healthcare bill. Originally, Hussein called for a civilian national security force. In a speech on July 2, 2008 then-Senator Obama said:”

    "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

    The machinery is in place.

    Finally, conservative must think in terms of a two phase battle against those people. Stopping them is phase 1. Tearing down the infrastructure they have been building for decades is phase 2.
    Last edited by Flanders; Jan 03 2012 at 07:56 AM.
    Flanders

    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    Over the years I posted messages on topics that triggered liberal bile more than did messages about a current news story. Global government was one such topic. Yesterday’s column by Doug Hagmann says this:

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    Who is Doug Hagmann- and why should I care what he speculates about?

    Oh thats right- its all part of the big KONSPIRACY!
    The problem with marriage is that we heterosexuals are not honoring marriage sufficiently- not with homosexuals wanting to get married.

    Every child a homosexual couples has is a desired child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFJEFF View Post
    Who is Doug Hagmann- and why should I care what he speculates about?

    Oh thats right- its all part of the big KONSPIRACY!
    To SFJEFF: You keep responding to my messages; so I have to conclude that you care what I say since you obviously do not care for my sources. I am flattered. I cannot reciprocate in kind, but I can show my appreciation if you let me know where I can buy your eggs.

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    Flanders

    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    To SFJEFF: You keep responding to my messages; so I have to conclude that you care what I say since you obviously do not care for my sources. I am flattered. I cannot reciprocate in kind, but I can show my appreciation if you let me know where I can buy your eggs.

    http://search.aol.com/aol/image?q=Os...yword_rollover
    Trader Joe's in my opinion is the best source of eggs.
    You are my best source of Konspiracy humor.
    The problem with marriage is that we heterosexuals are not honoring marriage sufficiently- not with homosexuals wanting to get married.

    Every child a homosexual couples has is a desired child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFJEFF View Post

    You are my best source of Konspiracy humor.
    To SFJEFF: It’s not a conspiracy when it differs from the Administration’s cover story. According to liberals every critical translation of Hussein’s objectives qualifies as a conspiracy.
    Flanders

    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Doug Hagaman ?

    Isn't he the guy whose main claim to credentials was a PI ticket ?

    If that's the same guy, he had a few "glory days" right after 9/11-when folks would believe almost anything.....but it didn't last.

    Reality kept intruding.

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    I have to admit, I see nothing wrong here at all. What is the problem?

    Bids to construct FEMA camps within 72 hours, what is wrong with that? I think that is an absolutely wonderful idea. And I would think it would be to anybody else.

    That is unless they like the idea of people recovering from a major disaster like a hurricane or earthquake living inside of tents for weeks to months at a time. Trust me, been there, done that, never want to do it again.

    Sorry, but I consider those who are paranoid right wing to be as delusional as those that are paranoid left wing. You see a forest fire in this, I do not even see a lit match (let alone a burning candle).
    Last edited by Mushroom; Mar 20 2012 at 10:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    I have to admit, I see nothing wrong here at all. What is the problem?

    Bids to construct FEMA camps within 72 hours, what is wrong with that? I think that is an absolutely wonderful idea. And I would think it would be to anybody else.

    That is unless they like the idea of people recovering from a major disaster like a hurricane or earthquake living inside of tents for weeks to months at a time. Trust me, been there, done that, never want to do it again.

    Sorry, but I consider those who are paranoid right wing to be as delusional as those that are paranoid left wing. You see a forest fire in this, I do not even see a lit match (let alone a burning candle).
    To Mushroom: Anybody who believes anything Hussein & Company say about the reason for Fema Camps deserves what they get. Unfortunately, those of us who know better will get it, too.

    The thing that sickens me the most is that up until recently anyone who warned about the UN and the global government was either ignored or disparaged. I was certain that in time as more Americans learned about the quislings and their objectives —— thanks to the Internet —— the tide would turn. I was mistaken. Millions like you no longer deny the UN’s drive towards a global government; instead, you look at Fema Camps and “. . . see nothing wrong here at all.”

    You should see that the people listed on the Homeland Security Council in the OP are scarier than a list of the top Nazis should have been before the German people finally saw what was happening. Statements made by Leon Panetta show that his loyalty is to the United Nations just as top Nazis were loyal to Hitler and the Nazi party.


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    There is no doubt that every other person on that list with Panetta thinks as he thinks. Note that Nazis slaughtered millions, Communists slaughtered tens of millions; the New World Order crowd will slaughter hundreds of millions in the name of population control. As I said in the OP:

    The machinery is in place.
    Flanders

    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    To Mushroom: Anybody who believes anything Hussein & Company say about the reason for Fema Camps deserves what they get. Unfortunately, those of us who know better will get it, too.

    The thing that sickens me the most is that up until recently anyone who warned about the UN and the global government was either ignored or disparaged. I was certain that in time as more Americans learned about the quislings and their objectives —— thanks to the Internet —— the tide would turn. I was mistaken. Millions like you no longer deny the UN’s drive towards a global government; instead, you look at Fema Camps and “. . . see nothing wrong here at all.”

    You should see that the people listed on the Homeland Security Council in the OP are scarier than a list of the top Nazis should have been before the German people finally saw what was happening. Statements made by Leon Panetta show that his loyalty is to the United Nations just as top Nazis were loyal to Hitler and the Nazi party.



    There is no doubt that every other person on that list with Panetta thinks as he thinks. Note that Nazis slaughtered millions, Communists slaughtered tens of millions; the New World Order crowd will slaughter hundreds of millions in the name of population control. As I said in the OP:
    Even scarier is that people still believe the crap you are posting !

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmeangenes View Post
    Even scarier is that people still believe the crap you are posting !
    I sure as hell don't, and is why I do not even bother to respond.

    After all, who is going to follow the orders to round up everybody and put them in the camps? The military?

    Don't make me laugh. We would almost all refuse, because it would not be a lawfull order. And I am sure the JCS would refuse as well.

    I do not care much for the current administration, but I do not believe them to be rabid fantics that want to round up their idealogical enemies and liquidate them either.

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