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Old 04-15-2006, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by noetsi";p=&quot View Post
liberals point out the deliberate effort of conservatives to distort the tax by talking about one and only one tax which happens to be progressive and ignoring every single other tax most of which are highly regressive. Thus they give the entirely false impression that its elites who are being badly abused by the tax system which an absolute and total lie when one looks at the overal, not just one tax picture.

Rich people do pay more taxes than the poor. They earn a heck of a lot more money than the poor. If I earn a hundred millon dollars one would expect I would pay more than if I earn 15,000 although apparently this is an alien concept to conservatives who are shocked by the unfairness of that...

I thought my example (I said it was an example not the actual tax rate several times) was pretty clear. But I will simply it some more. Consumption taxes, like sales taxes or the proposed conservative alternative to the income tax the consumption tax, is highly regressive that is you pay a higher percentage of your income as you earn less money. A signficant number of taxes in the US, the ones conservatives never bring up, are highly regressive.

Indeed the only taxes conservatives ever bring up among the vast number in the US are those few such as estate, capital gains, income taxes and dividend taxes that are progressive. They virtually never talk about sales, exise or other taxes that are highly regressive. What an amazing concidence for a group more tyed to the wealthy than any movement in a century. Only talk about taxes that are progressive, focus on cutting them, ignore all the others.

Bush could have signficantly increased the standard deduction or eliminated federal exise taxes which would have helped median and middle income wage earners. Instead he focused on taxes on elites such as estate taxes, higher end income taxes, capital gains dividend taxes etc. Who here thinks its concidental that a conservative did such.


Bad news for conservatives. Most Americans dont think its the wealthy who are getting the shaft by the tax system or that elite based taxes are where the problem with the tax system is...

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People think the middle class, the self-employed and small businesses pay too much in taxes, the poll found. And they think those with high incomes and big businesses don't pay enough. The survey was conducted in the days before the mid-April deadline for filing income tax returns.
And they are right, Americans pay one of the least fair tax systems on earth, to benefit elites. When we start getting rid of Republicans over the next decade we can fix that problem - when we start for the first time in a generation focusing on the problems of people who dont earn six figure salaries.

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Well, I'll tell ya what Noetsi.....I'll trade you my tax bill with YOUR tax bill this year; sight unseen.

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