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  1. Default America Has The Richest Poor In The World

    When you look at the facts, being "poor" in America is not that bad

    Yet the left want you to think that the "poor" live a hard life and only more of your money will solve the problem

    Here are some numbers from the US Census Bureau on "poverty" in America


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    The following are facts about persons defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau as taken from various government reports:

    80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. In 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

    92 percent of poor households have a microwave.

    Nearly three-fourths have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.

    Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.

    Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR.

    Half have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers.

    More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.

    43 percent have Internet access.

    One-third have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV.

    One-fourth have a digital video recorder system, such as a TiVo.

    For decades, the living conditions of the poor have steadily improved. Consumer items that were luxuries or significant purchases for the middle class a few decades ago have become commonplace in poor households, partially because of the normal downward price trend that follows introduction of a new product.

    Liberals use the declining relative prices of many amenities to argue that it is no big deal that poor households have air conditioning, computers, cable TV, and wide-screen TV. They contend, polemically, that even though most poor families may have a house full of modern conveniences, the average poor family still suffers from substantial deprivation in basic needs, such as food and housing. In reality, this is just not true.

    Although the mainstream media broadcast alarming stories about widespread and severe hunger in the nation, in reality, most of the poor do not experience hunger or food shortages. The U.S. Department of Agriculture collects data on these topics in its household food security survey. For 2009, the survey showed:

    96 percent of poor parents stated that their children were never hungry at any time during the year because they could not afford food.

    83 percent of poor families reported having enough food to eat.

    82 percent of poor adults reported never being hungry at any time in the prior year due to lack of money for food.

    Other government surveys show that the average consumption of protein, vitamins, and minerals is virtually the same for poor and middle-class children and is well above recommended norms in most cases.

    Television newscasts about poverty in America generally portray the poor as homeless people or as a destitute family living in an overcrowded, dilapidated trailer. In fact, however:

    Over the course of a year, 4 percent of poor persons become temporarily homeless.

    Only 9.5 percent of the poor live in mobile homes or trailers, 49.5 percent live in separate single-family houses or townhouses, and 40 percent live in apartments.

    42 percent of poor households actually own their own homes.

    Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.

    The average poor American has more living space than the typical non-poor person in Sweden, France, or the United Kingdom.

    The vast majority of the homes or apartments of the poor are in good repair.

    By their own reports, the average poor person had sufficient funds to meet all essential needs and to obtain medical care for family members throughout the year whenever needed.

    Of course, poor Americans do not live in the lap of luxury. The poor clearly struggle to make ends meet, but they are generally struggling to pay for cable TV, air conditioning, and a car, as well as for food on the table. The average poor person is far from affluent, but his lifestyle is far from the images of stark deprivation purveyed equally by advocacy groups and the media.

    The fact that the average poor household has many modern conveniences and experiences no substantial hardships does not mean that no families face hardships. As noted, the overwhelming majority of the poor are well housed and not overcrowded, but one in 25 will become temporarily homeless during the year. While most of the poor have a sufficient and fairly steady supply of food, one in five poor adults will experience temporary food shortages and hunger at some point in a year.

    The poor man who has lost his home or suffers intermittent hunger will find no consolation in the fact that his condition occurs infrequently in American society. His hardships are real and must be an important concern for policymakers. Nonetheless, anti-poverty policy needs to be based on accurate information. Gross exaggeration of the extent and severity of hardships in America will not benefit society, the taxpayers, or the poor.

    Finally, welfare policy needs to address the causes of poverty, not merely the symptoms. Among families with children, the collapse of marriage and erosion of the work ethic are the principal long-term causes of poverty. When the recession ends, welfare policy must require able-bodied recipients to work or prepare for work as a condition of receiving aid. It should also strengthen marriage in low-income communities rather than ignore and penalize it.

    http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...-americas-poor


  2. Default So, what?

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    When you look at the facts, being "poor" in America is not that bad...
    Speak for YOURSELF. And we have most of the wealthiest "rich" in the world also.

    So, what do you think that means? It certainly doesn't mean the poor or middle class should just accept things as they are. If you think we should just leave things where they are, you are far from being reasonable.
    "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." -C. Darwin-

    This man is correct, in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny-C View Post
    Speak for YOURSELF. And we have most of the wealthiest "rich" in the world also.

    So, what do you think that means? It certainly doesn't mean the poor or middle class should just accept things as they are. If you think we should just leave things where they are, you are far from being reasonable.
    It means the living conditions of the "poor" have been over hyped and libs are tugging at the heartstrings of people to fund their social programs even more

  4. Default Okay. I see you have your views.

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    It means the living conditions of the "poor" have been over hyped and libs are tugging at the heartstrings of people to fund their social programs even more
    You continue to BUY what you think is right. In the meantime I and many others will continue to fight for what is truly helpful to most Americans.
    Last edited by Johnny-C; Feb 11 2012 at 12:20 AM.
    "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." -C. Darwin-

    This man is correct, in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny-C View Post
    You continue to BUY what you think is right. In the meantime I and many others will continue to fight for what is truly helpful to most Americans.
    You want to keep people right whewre they are - dependent on government and vote Dem. That keeps the cycle of dependency going and keeps libs in power

    I want them to free from government dependence and be successful on their own. That is what is best for America and the people involved

  6. Default Wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    You want to keep people right whewre they are...
    You could be no further from the truth; but with an assumption such as the one above... it should not be surprising.
    "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." -C. Darwin-

    This man is correct, in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny-C View Post
    You could be no further from the truth; but with an assumption such as the one above... it should not be surprising.
    look at your track record. Since the Great Society the government has spent over $9 trillion to fight poverty and what do we have to show for it?

    Besdies a massive national debt and a credit downgrade?

    According to libs poverty has never been worse and more money is needed to "solve the problem"

  8. Default We all have our views on these things. Capitalism isn't 'everything'.

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    look at your track record....
    Look at AMERICA's track record... nothing we see before us, is solely the fault of ONE particular ideology. Even so, I do believe/think that we need significantly LESS of those things Conservatives are pushing for and more of a social approach where larger numbers of Americans benefit from what this nation produces.

    We know well enough, that pushing the wealth up to the TOP isn't the best or only solution.
    Last edited by Johnny-C; Feb 11 2012 at 01:00 AM.
    "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." -C. Darwin-

    This man is correct, in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny-C View Post
    Look at AMERICA's track record... nothing we see before us, is solely the fault of ONE particular ideology. Even so, I do believe/think that we need significantly LESS of those things Conservatives are pushing for and more of a social approach where larger numbers of Americans benefit from what this nation produces.

    We know well enough, that pushing the wealth up to the TOP isn't the best or only solution.
    OK so don't comment on how much has been spent to fight poverty and the end results - go back to class warfare

    Please tell me how making the rich poorer will help to make the poor richer

    As far as I know, that plan has never worked anywhere it has been tried

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny-C View Post
    You continue to BUY what you think is right. In the meantime I and many others will continue to fight for what is truly helpful to most Americans.
    Which would be, oh, right, to take from me and give to them. But, to quote Ms. Thatcher, what do we do with liberals run out of other peoples' money?

    And the OP does make a valid point. I heard a congresswoman bemoaning the fact that some of her constituents were so poor they couldn't afford cable television. I sat down and cried. And, the lovely woman on NPR who said, "Not having money is no reason to live poor. That's what credit cards are for." I assume she's now working in the current administration in Washington.

    A liberal asked me if I didn't have any compassion for the starving millions in the U.S. Of course, I do. Anorexia is a terrible disorder.

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