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    Granny says dey gonna be one o' the 4 kings o' the east dat comes across the Euphrates river an' invades Israel inna last days Armygeddon...

    China boosts defence budget by 11.2% to $106.4 billion
    Mar 4, 2012: China on Sunday announced a double-digit hike in military spending in 2012, in a move likely to fuel concerns about Beijing's rapid military build-up and increase regional tensions.
    The defence budget will rise 11.2 per cent to 670.27 billion yuan ($106.41 billion), said Li Zhaoxing, a spokesman for China's national parliament, citing a budget report submitted to the country's rubber-stamp legislature. The figure marks a slowdown from 2011 when spending rose by 12.7 per cent but is still likely to fuel worries over China's growing assertiveness in the Asia-Pacific region and push its neighbours to forge closer ties with the United States.

    Li described the budget as "relatively low" as a percentage of gross domestic product compared with other countries and said it was aimed at "safeguarding sovereignty, national security and territorial integrity". "We have a large territory and a long coastline but our defence spending is relatively low compared with other major countries," Li told reporters. "It will not in the least pose a threat to other countries."

    China has been increasing its military spending by double digits for most of the past decade, during which time its economy, now the world's second largest, grew at a blistering pace. The People's Liberation Army -- the world's largest with an estimated 2.3 million troops -- is hugely secretive about its defence programmes, but insists its modernisation is purely defensive in nature.

    The rapid military build-up has nevertheless set alarm bells ringing across Asia and in Washington, which announced in January a defence strategy focused on countering China's rising power. Analysts said the smaller-than-expected increase in spending this year was an attempt by Beijing to ease concerns in the United States and the region about its growing military might. "It is doubtful whether the message will get across because most countries know that the real budget is at least double the published one," said Willy Lam, a leading China expert at the Chinese University of Hong Kong.

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    China announces double-digit hike in its defense budget
    March 4, 2012 | China announced on Sunday an 11.2% increase in its defense budget for 2012, the latest in a string of double-digit hikes in recent years.
    For the first time, China’s defense spending will top $100 billion and that figure is believed by international experts to omit such large-ticket items as its space program. Although the increase is not as large as last year’s, it is enough to provoke anxiety at a time that the United States is shifting military resources to the Asia-Pacific. The budget was unveiled, as in past years, on the eve of the opening session of the National People’s Congress, China’s equivalent of a legislature, which meets annually in March. At a news conference Sunday, Li Zhaoxing, a spokesman for the congress, announced the $110-billion budget, while stating that the spending “constitutes no threat to other countries.’’ "You can see that we have 1.3 billion people with a large land areas and a long coastline, but our outlays on defense are quite low compared to other major countries," said Li.

    By way of comparison, the U.S. Congress has approved $662 billion in Pentagon spending for next year, $43 billion lower than this year's budget. China has been trying to upgrade its naval forces and in August unveiled an aircraft carrier it is developing -- a refurbished Soviet model acquired from Ukraine. It also did a test flight early last year of a prototype of a stealth fighter jet. China is "growing bolder with regard to their expanded regional and global presence, and China continues to challenge the United States and our partners in the region in the maritime, cyber and space domains," Adm. Robert Willard, U.S. commander for the Asia-Pacific region, told the Senate Arms Services Committee last week. "They continue to advance their capabilities and capacities in all areas."

    In recent years, China has made more assertive maritime claims, unnerving neighbors, particularly Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and the Philippines. Last year at this time, Beijing announced a 12.7% increase in military spending, resuming double-digit expansion after a more modest 7.5% increase in 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltky View Post
    Granny says dey gonna be one o' the 4 kings o' the east dat comes across the Euphrates river an' invades Israel inna last days Armygeddon...

    China boosts defence budget by 11.2% to $106.4 billion
    Mar 4, 2012: China on Sunday announced a double-digit hike in military spending in 2012, in a move likely to fuel concerns about Beijing's rapid military build-up and increase regional tensions.
    Why would China invade one of their best sources of stolen US military technology?
    sputterman: "Aiding the enemy? If the truth aids the enemy then we are in the wrong war."

    Me: "When the people who teach our children, protect us from fires and criminals, save our lives when we're injured, and defend us with their very lives make less in a year than a guy who throws a ball for a living makes in an hour, there is something truly (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up with our country."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questerr View Post
    Why would China invade one of their best sources of stolen US military technology?
    Nations fight for reasons that make no logical sense.

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    $100 billion per year?? Thats great, the Chinese will just have to increase that another $560 Billion per year to match what the US gov't spends annually on her military.

    And the China Threat propaganda continues .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant Eyed Pirate View Post
    $100 billion per year?? Thats great, the Chinese will just have to increase that another $560 Billion per year to match what the US gov't spends annually on her military.

    And the China Threat propaganda continues .....
    It doesn't matter how big the Chinese budget is, it's never going to out do the west, and China would need a budget of 900 billion to match the US in terms of ability and size. Because it has internal problems and borders 12 other nations.

    Also something not said, is the growing western powers Australia and Canada increasing their military budgets.

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    Hacksters threaten national security...

    US faces increasing threat of cyberattacks by terrorists, including on battlefield, officials say
    March 09, 2012 | An eventual full-scale cyberattack on the U.S. by a terrorist organization is "a certitude," a former senior intelligence official told Fox News, and "cyberterrorists" already are making criminal use of the technology to steal money and move it around to finance their operations.
    Tech-based terror threats are increasingly raising concerns in Washington, and FBI Director Robert Mueller testified this week that such threats are among the most serious facing the U.S. -- including on the battlefield. Officials are reporting a sharp increase in the number of attacks by hackers, and Mueller, while not mentioning Iran, Russia or China by name, described a potential “cyber one-two punch,” in which a nation state or terrorist organization first steals intellectual property, then uses that information to interfere, jam or disrupt operations on the battlefield.

    “Certainly long term threat is by nation states who are finding new and ingenious ways to exfiltrate information,” Mueller told the House Appropriations Committee on Wednesday. “On the one hand developing new technology for any future conflict, or on the other hand enabling them to disable our technology during in a time of war.” Mueller also told lawmakers that terrorists may see cyberattacks as a winning strategy for circumventing the traditional post-9/11 security, which focuses on physical attacks. In prepared testimony he said, “Terrorists have not used the Internet to launch a full-scale cyberattack, but we cannot underestimate their intent."

    Under questioning by Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., Mueller said he backed stronger criminal penalties for those who steal sensitive U.S. economic data. "Our companies are targeted for insider information, and our universities and national laboratories are targeted for their research and development," the FBI director told lawmakers. Mueller’s warnings took on greater urgency as the full Senate was briefed on the administration’s strategy for responding to a major cyberattack. Fox News was told the scenario included the takedown of the electrical grid. Significantly, the briefers included Mueller, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, the head of the National Security Agency, Keith Alexander, and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey.

    Earlier this week, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta warned that the new battlefield is on the Web. “We have a new threat, the threat of cyber intrusions and attack," he said. And at last month’s Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on Worldwide threats, Sen. John McCain underscored the aggressive nature of China’s cyber espionage, which included the hacking of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s network. “The number and sophistication of cyberattacks on American targets by Chinese actors, likely with Chinese government involvement in many cases, is growing increasingly severe and damaging," McCain emphasized.

    Citing the recent arrests of Megaupload and LulzSec, Mueller emphasized at Wednesday’s hearing that cyberattacks are the ultimate borderless crime. “Our ability to work internationally is absolutely essential in order to address the cyber arena,” Mueller said. “We have strategically placed agents with our counterparts in countries like Romania, the Ukraine, Estonia and the like, where much of the activity takes place.” Mueller warned that the day may not be far away when cybercrime or cyberterrorism become the bureau’s main priority. Right now, it remains counterterrorism. “Down the road, if a country steals those secrets that will enable that country to overwhelm us in the field of battle someplace, that is something that is a threat and ultimately may be a more serious threat.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltky View Post
    Granny says dey gonna be one o' the 4 kings o' the east dat comes across the Euphrates river an' invades Israel inna last days Armygeddon...

    China boosts defence budget by 11.2% to $106.4 billion
    Mar 4, 2012: China on Sunday announced a double-digit hike in military spending in 2012, in a move likely to fuel concerns about Beijing's rapid military build-up and increase regional tensions.


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    March 4, 2012 | China announced on Sunday an 11.2% increase in its defense budget for 2012, the latest in a string of double-digit hikes in recent years.
    The US spends more on the military than the entire world combined. This is a non issue.
    "As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horhey View Post
    The US spends more on the military than the entire world combined. This is a non issue.
    Borrows more from Federal Reserve. Federal reserve glady prints more to lend to Uncle Sam on behalf of taxpayers. Soon we'd be wiping our butthholes with them greenbacks.

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    China gettin' ready to invade Korea?...

    China Boosts Naval Presence Near Korean Peninsula
    Mar. 12, 2012 - Alarm bells are ringing in some quarters here as China becomes more assertive in waters near the Korean Peninsula. Beijing reportedly wants to include a submerged rock effectively controlled by Korea in regular maritime patrols near the peninsula and deploy its first aircraft carrier there in August. It is also bolstering naval facilities at Dalian port and increasing the number of naval destroyers.
    The chief of China's State Oceanic Administration was reported as saying in an interview with the official Xinhua news agency on Saturday that Ieo Island is in waters under Chinese control, causing Seoul to call in the Chinese ambassador before deciding whether to lodge an official complaint. The media reports have apparently not been verified. Some pundits say these developments could spell a new maritime threat to Korea. A researcher with a state-run think tank said China's decision to include the submerged rock of Ieo Island, which lies in the two countries' overlapping economic zones, in maritime patrols "looks 10 to 20 years down the road. If China starts to flex its muscle, a clash with Korea would be inevitable."

    A government official said while the U.S. is ostensibly shifting its strategic focus on Asia, it is decreasing its military strength in the region, leading to "an inevitable power vacuum" in East Asia and the Pacific, which China may be determined to fill. China has been pursuing a three-stage plan since the 1980s to bolster its naval power. It wants to expand its naval reach to waters near Guam and Indonesia by 2020 and to anywhere in the world by 2050. It is also bolstering a task force fleet to increase its naval mobility.

    Ieo Island is 149 km off the southern coast of Jeju and is closer to Korea than any other country. Submerged rocks cannot be claimed as any country's territory, but the question is whether the waters are under Korean or Chinese control. Korea is building a maritime research station there. China is also involved in various other territorial disputes, laying claim to the Diaoyu or Senkaku Islands, which are partly controlled by Japan. Lee Dae-woo, a researcher at the Sejong Institute, said, "China is bolstering its naval strength faster than scheduled and is likely to become a major global force around 2020 due to its powerful economic base."

    These concerns lay behind the decision during the Roh Moo-hyun administration to build a naval base on Jeju Island in order to stem China's increasing naval reach. But now the plan is facing a stumbling block in fierce opposition from leftwing groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltky View Post
    Granny says dey gonna be one o' the 4 kings o' the east dat comes across the Euphrates river an' invades Israel inna last days Armygeddon...
    Grandpa says the forerunners of the beasts from the "Planet of the Apes" gonna be one o' the 4 kings dat comes across the Euphrates river an' invades Israel inna last days Armygeddon...

    He knows Granny won't raise much objection as he has discovered her soft spot -- for monkeys.

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