05-30-2006, 12:25 PM
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Religion of peace
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Originally Posted by Doctiloquus";p="
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From one of the links–
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"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); But if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: For Allah is oft forgiving, most merciful." 9:5
"When war becomes inevitable, it must be prosecuted with vigor. According to the English phrase, you cannot fight with kid gloves. The fighting may take the form of slaughter, or capture, or siege, or ambush and other stratagems. But even then there is room for repentance and amendment on the part of the guilty party, and if that takes place, our duty is forgiveness and establishment of peace. The repentance must be sincere, and that is shown by conduct - a religious spirit of true prayer and charity. In that case we are not to bar the gate against the repentant. On the contrary we must do all we can to make their way easy, remembering that Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful." -I.E..
It is thus clear that the Muslims were allowed to fight only in self-defense, to preserve their national existence, and they were forbidden to be the aggressors.
http://www.islam101.com/terror/versesT.htm
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Lets look at what the Quran says–
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Quran 9:1-5
A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger, to those of the Pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances:-
Go ye, then, for four months, backwards and forwards, (as ye will), throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him.
And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.
(But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
(Translation: Abdullah Yusuf Ali)
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So the Quran is talking about ending treaties with pagans. (This is after the conquest of Mecca.) Where pagans have previously broken their agreement with the Muslims, the treaty should be cancelled, giving them four months notice. With pagans who have kept their agreement with the Muslims, the treaty should be fulfilled to the end of its term.
And then the Muslims fight the pagans.
"but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity..."
It is talking about the "Salat" prayers and "Zakat" charity that are essential to Islam. They fight the pagans unless they convert to Islam. This is offensive war we are talking about. The Muslims clearly didn't need to fight: they were the ones ending treaties and going out to fight.
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