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Old 05-31-2006, 09:46 AM
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Merlin;
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If this statement were true the price of gas would never drop... and yet it does.
Let’s use the right words here! The price of gas fluctuates! It fluctuates up and down, but it never drops lower than the last significant increase??? It’s been that way since I started purchasing the stuff over 30 years ago??? The cost goes up pretty much consistently 3 times or so a year! It goes up $.04, then after a while it goes down $.02, and the political infomercials on the TV/radio says gas prices are going down and all is well, and people believe it, hook, line, and sinker???

Merlin;
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Actually it means they would not have to pay the costs of importing oil from a far away land.
So let me get this straight? The reason gas is so expensive (less than eye drops, WD-40), or the reason they tell us it costs so much (less than Jack Daniel’s, or A-1), is because they (I assume you mean the US oil companies?) cannot keep up with the demand, with our limited amount of refineries, so they have to send oil abroad to be refined to meet our wasteful demands!! And without building refineries to meet that demand, it only results in more oil being shipped around the world for absolutely no other reason than, to create the highest amount of profits possible?? And why not, America can afford it, and if they can’t these companies (and their political clout) will be compensated by the government for their short comings, just like the medical, pharmaceutical, insurance, agriculture, and several other industries that use the government to, how should I say it, subsidize their income???

I know, I know build more refineries, but the environmentalists won’t let oil companies to pollute the way they have in the past, and the oil companies say it isn’t cost effective to have refineries in the US, because of the extra (in their eyes, an un-necessary) expense?? Which is the reason we don’t have refineries in the US today, because it is cheaper (more profitable) in the long run to send the stuff over seas to be processed!! Not really a popular idea from either side???


Merlin;
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Sorry, but everytime someone investigates oil "price-gouging", they come up with nothing. I know you think this means a cover-up, but you know what? Sometimes, if you keep coming up with nothing, it means that there is nothing to come up with. Most recent example? The Supreme Court's 8 to 0 decision (Justice Alito not yet participating) shot down a claim that oil companies were colluding in setting prices. Liberals and conservatives on the Court were unanimous on this one.

Okay, here's the part where you say the Oil Companies bought the Supreme Court...
By someone you mean the government??? Why would I consider their to be a cover-up (s) or a pay-off (s) involved??? You do realize that as we speak our elected officials in congress are “scrambling”, I believe was the word they used this morning, to submit legislation that would free our political representatives from being searched, possibly even investigated, for of all things, “breaking the law”!! Yes this landmark legislation will insure that they can take/accept bribes, redistribute tax money with impunity, money launder, or sell ‘your’ vote to the highest bidder, blatantly, without any fear of reprisal???

Never in the history of the US has there ever been any evidence that a judge took a bribe or had personal opinions that swayed their decision, or ever based their decision on other beliefs such as religion, race, creed, or the simple threat of financial stability??? Right, are you really that naïve, or just delusional???

I’m sure any logically thinking individual could look at record profits (with the gouging), record sales, record political pay off’s (political contributions), record tax breaks, and not to forget record R/D kickbacks for of all things, to find an alternative to the very commodity that has made them the richest companies in the world for over 100 years, but how dare anyone think that gouging, or any other illegal act is going on here???

For Pete’s sake, one of those poor companies just had to buy out one of their executive's for 1/2 billion dollars, because they cannot afford to have the guy taking up any more office space??? You know in the real world when a company can no longer afford an employee, they pay them two weeks severance pay, and send them down the road, or they just fire them!! Why would a company that is barely making it, buy off an employee who is directly responsible for their situation, unless there is some form of blackmail involved?? They seem to be paying everybody else, why not a handful of key judges???

This the same supreme court that said we have to provide medical and educational benefits for illegal trespassers so they can continue to live illegally among us??? Hmmm, you don’t suppose they might have been swayed by the fact that sending all those Mexicans back to Mexico, where they belong, would have a considerable short term negative effect on their personal portfolio, would it??? JP5 would be!!!

DUH chimes in, it’s the media they’re the cause;
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I think alot of it is caused by the hype the media applies to it..and not really the prices. I think most people while they of course want lower prices just shrug and move on. A few thogh buy into the OMG the worlds ending and go bonkers.
Yes the hype the media applies to it??? The media is responsible for the lack of money in the average family budget these days?? They (the media) are the reason for families having to tighten their belt, and ignore the pleasures they once enjoyed, like taking the family out for a movie, to a sporting event, maybe a fishing trip, or even the simple pleasures of a Sunday drive (remember those), just a few of the many leisurely activities that are all being effected by the cost of fuel (Six Flags just announced that their annual passes (was $200.00 for years, is now less than $50.00) will only cost a few dollars more than a daily pass because attendance is down (or more to the point, in the crapper)??? And don’t think for a minute that the cost of fuel, doesn’t effect the cost of transporting food, clothing, utilities, beverages, or other consumer items including everything the wallyworld fleet carries!!!

I personally think it is time to visit the patent office and do a little research and utilize the “for the good of the people” clause, and start a “use it or loose it” program for all the patents the oil companies have purchased in the last 100 years dealing with reductions or alternatives to oil, and any others that deal with alternative fuel sources (solar, hydrogen, electric, battery cells, etc…)!!! Then we need to backburner NASA, and/or any visions of traveling to Mars for the moment, and put all those patents and other resources, to work creating a viable alternative to gasoline.

Oops I almost forgot?? The government isn’t owned by the people right now, it is owned by the oil companies and their subsidiaries!! The president (oil man), the VP (oilman), S of S (oilwoman), etc… etc…

Merlin;
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I am against taxpayer dollars being used to fund that research. After all, how much government seed money did the fledgling oil industry need?
Who do you think funds it now?? The government and the people who use the product!!! Sure as hell isn't the guy that just walked out with a promissory of 1/2 a billion dollars???

Sorry didn't mean to go so long! I eagerly await your reply!!!
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