Womens Rights - The reason I'm pro choice. - Page 12

Kufnaka · #**111** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 01:07 PM

But wait! During sex, I didn't consent for you to take my semen and kill it! That's part of a man's body, and yet you assert that it's only the woman's choice.

Realize that giving one sex total control over childbirth simply because they perform one part of the process over another is ridiculous. If my Bio memory serves me correctly, 50% of that genome and 1 of the 2 gametes come with from each, and therefore they should have equal consent in the birth. The act of consensual intercourse gives full consent by both sides to birth and care for the resulting pregnancy: they choose whether or not to have an abortion before conception.

Makedde · #**112** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kufnaka

But wait! During sex, I didn't consent for you to take my semen and kill it! That's part of a man's body, and yet you assert that it's only the woman's choice.

Realize that giving one sex total control over childbirth simply because they perform one part of the process over another is ridiculous. If my Bio memory serves me correctly, 50% of that genome and 1 of the 2 gametes come with from each, and therefore they should have equal consent in the birth. The act of consensual intercourse gives full consent by both sides to birth and care for the resulting pregnancy: they choose whether or not to have an abortion before conception.

Semon may be part of the mans body, but once it enters the woman, it becomes a part of her body.
Both man and woman cannot have equal consent to the pregnancy/birth because the man has no say in whether or not the pregnancy continues. He has the right to an opinion, but the right to choose rests with the female.

Makedde · #**113** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chesby05

And not all men are primary providers. While I am on maternity leave we will be living on my partner's income plus a LOT of money that we've saved, I'll still be working 12 hours a week and going back to work full time after six months to support my child as well. That's a blanket assertion which is not strictly accurate.

Honey, you should be resting after having that bubby! I think you could change your mind about going back to work full time...my neighbour had her first child, and she planned on going back to work after six months, but after that time she couldn't do it, because she couldn't leave her baby alone for that long. She has since had two more children, and has no intention of going back to work because she loves her kids too much.

Chesby05 · #**114** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 05:20 PM

I wish! I already know I'm not going to want to go back, but financially that isn't an option. The Chesboy is a student and even if he wasn't, we still couldn't live on one income. I have to contribute as well - but my boss is very nice and flexible so we'll work something out if it comes to the point that full time is too much for me.

Or else we'll just win that $15 million Powerball tonight.

Makedde · #**115** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chesby05

I wish! I already know I'm not going to want to go back, but financially that isn't an option. The Chesboy is a student and even if he wasn't, we still couldn't live on one income. I have to contribute as well - but my boss is very nice and flexible so we'll work something out if it comes to the point that full time is too much for me.

Or else we'll just win that $15 million Powerball tonight.

The Powerball was last night, sweetie, unless you refer to another game entirely...most I've won is 7th division three or four times.

Chesby05 · #**116** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 05:39 PM

Lol! See - there you go. Pregnant brain. That's what I meant - last night's Powerball!.....

Makedde · #**117** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chesby05

Lol! See - there you go. Pregnant brain. That's what I meant - last night's Powerball!.....

So did you win? Don't tell me you haven't checked your ticket yet...

Chesby05 · #**118** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 05:59 PM

No I'm not allowed to. The Chesboy likes to `dream for a few days', as he puts it. His Mum is the same. If I find out and we haven't won (which is usually the case) I'm not allowed to say anything for a few days.

Makedde · #**119** (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chesby05

No I'm not allowed to. The Chesboy likes to `dream for a few days', as he puts it. His Mum is the same. If I find out and we haven't won (which is usually the case) I'm not allowed to say anything for a few days.

Get that ticket from him and check those numbers! You could be a millionaire right now and not realise it!

peaceful warrior · #**120** (**permalink**) 06-02-2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

Semon may be part of the mans body, but once it enters the woman, it becomes a part of her body.
Both man and woman cannot have equal consent to the pregnancy/birth because the man has no say in whether or not the pregnancy continues. He has the right to an opinion, but the right to choose rests with the female.

so, the father has to pay child support but he does'nt get say? hmmm...? unfair. also i thought you didn't believe in no killing no matter what? does that not apply to babies? congratulations, you've just been outmaneuvered by a teenager.

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