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Old 01-29-2008, 02:36 PM
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I guess you mean that to be a communist. Think again AK, you have Marx and Lennon, confused with the real communists, how disingenuous can you be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groucho_Marx

The liberal political views of Groucho Marx and singer John Lennon were not lost on satirists, who capitalized on the coincidence of their surnames' similarity to Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin:
Sorry did you have someone else in mind?
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Me: So you are willing to simply take Chavez's word for it?

Chavez's word has been proven to be better than the shrub's
Is that a yes or a no?


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Me: Source please.

The Whitehouse.
So you have no actual link to a source, correct?

You just want to make blind accusations and then expect us to take your word for it? Are you high?




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Me: Sorry, Chavez isn't right by default.

He might not be
Maybe he is to you. Thats why I asked you the question at the top of this post. I am trying not to put words in your mouth because I'm such a nice guy.



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Him: That must have taken some time to make up, did you get that from your crack head friend Chavez?

I got it from the Shrub.
But you cant show us where you got it eh? uh huh....



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Him: So we are suppose to believe this? Amazing what computers can do.

It's from the US Government.
No, you claim it is from the US government. I am unwilling to take your word for it.


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It is up to you if you believe the US Government or not.
I am leaning towards "not" heh heh



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I know I place very little trust in the US Government but you do keep implying that the US Government is OK. But If you say that the US Government is untrustworthy, who am I to say "told you so".
All that assumes that we believe that your source is real, and not made up.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:14 AM
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Is that a yes or a no?
When it comes to Chavez's word against the Shrub, Chavez has the greater veracity.

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So you have no actual link to a source, correct?
As per normal you are incorrect.

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You just want to make blind accusations and then expect us to take your word for it? Are you high?
No.

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Maybe he is to you. Thats why I asked you the question at the top of this post. I am trying not to put words in your mouth because I'm such a nice guy.
Unfortunately for you the Shrub is always wrong by default

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But you cant show us where you got it eh? uh huh....
You search the Shrubs speeches

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No, you claim it is from the US government. I am unwilling to take your word for it.
About the National Security Archive
An independent non-governmental research institute and library located at The George Washington University, the Archive collects and publishes declassified documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. The Archive also serves as a repository of government records on a wide range of topics pertaining to the national security, foreign, intelligence, and economic policies of the United States. The Archive won the 1999 George Polk Award, one of U.S. journalism's most prestigious prizes, for-in the words of the citation-"piercing the self-serving veils of government secrecy, guiding journalists in the search for the truth and informing us all."

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf


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All that assumes that we believe that your source is real, and not made up.
I seem to be unable to remember the last time you posted any proof of any of your assertions SS. Even after you had been specifically requested to provide proof. I do find you to be extremely reluctant to put any effort into your own education. All you have to do is type in Operation Mongoose or Northwoods. I shall be putting as much effort into refuting you as you put effort into refutations.



US actions show the veracity of my statements without having to trawl through a load Shrub speeches.
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I seem to be unable to remember the last time you posted any proof of any of your assertions SS. Even after you had been specifically requested to provide proof. I do find you to be extremely reluctant to put any effort into your own education. All you have to do is type in Operation Mongoose or Northwoods. I shall be putting as much effort into refuting you as you put effort into refutations.

US actions show the veracity of my statements without having to trawl through a load Shrub speeches.
I have never known S-S to refuse to provide proof to anyone that asks him to back up his assertions. However, I'm known to be wrong once in a blue moon. If what you're saying about him is true, then please provide proof that he's done what you say he has.

It's common courtesy to provide proof of an assertion. Otherwise you should apologize and ask a mod to remove your previous post making the assertion. (If you are unable to do so, then at least admit it.)

The ball is still in your court.
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The first agreement that will come before you is with Colombia, a friend of America that is confronting violence and terror, and fighting drug traffickers. If we fail to pass this agreement, we will embolden the purveyors of false populism in our hemisphere.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...080128-13.html

would seem dubya would like to send a bit of military assistance to quell any populist who might be reigning in the next country
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I have never known S-S to refuse to provide proof to anyone that asks him to back up his assertions. However, I'm known to be wrong once in a blue moon. If what you're saying about him is true, then please provide proof that he's done what you say he has.
SS has never supplied proof to any of my requests when SS makes unsubstantiated assertions.

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It's common courtesy to provide proof of an assertion. Otherwise you should apologize and ask a mod to remove your previous post making the assertion. (If you are unable to do so, then at least admit it.)
The assertion has been proved by US actions and the links provided pointing out the reopening of covert and overt operations carried out by US agents in Foreign countries. And quite frankly I do not have the time trawling through the shrubs speeches
Bush Authorizes New Covert Action Against Iran


US Meddles Aggressively in Iran

Covert Action, Economic Pressure and Destabilisation

SELIG S HARRISON / Le Monde diplomatique (France) 1oct2007

http://www.ciponline.org/asia/articl...sonLeMonde.htm
And in Pakistan.
http://www.navyseals.com/u-s-may-boo...nside-pakistan

Despite the disaster of the invasion and occupation of Iraq, the Bush administration wants not just to deter Iran’s nuclear ambitions but maybe even to overthrow the Islamic Republic. It has already authorised ‘non-lethal’ action within Iran and helped separatist groups. But instead of supporting the country’s democratic opposition, US meddling has encouraged its hardliners to reinforce their positions

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The ball is still in your court.
No it isn't.

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Graucho was brilliant.

One of my favorite quotes by him was, "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a good book. Inside of a dog it's just too dark to read."

By the way... he was jewish. Something tells me he wouldn't approve of your admiration.
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Sad fact is that we even have a poster that seriously takes Chevez point in hand.

I am sorry, but any man that wants to take way individual rights and choices to be replaced by socialism, needs to be removed.

I love how AK posts a document from 50 years ago on how they would handle Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis. A totally different situation and topic in history.
And I support my nation when it goes again freedom of the individual, whether that be Chavez, Clinton or Bush or anyone.

Point is, Chavez is an individual that is a dictator and uses politcal and social tactics that endanger individual freedoms.
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